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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 11:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by forgottenlord on Sept 19, 2019 11:08:53 GMT -5
Trump: Obstruction of Justice: multiple incidents. Violations of the Emoluments Clause of the US Constitution: multiple incidents Kavanaugh: Lying under oath during his confirmation hearings, though I'm generally cooler to the argument that he should be impeached as it has nothing to do with his duties as US Supreme Court Justice or any of the roles he held that led to his appointment. The main thing that bothers me is his refusal to take responsibility for past crimes rather than that he committed them. EDIT: Also, I feel like Kavanaugh was confirmed in spite of everyone knowing he was absolutely lying his ass off to a nonsensical degree. There is no way a guy with his history has *never* been blackout drunk and is able to perfectly clearly remember everything he did at every party and there's no way Kavanaugh doesn't know that and there's no way Flake didn't know that. This is where you are wrong. What kind of ''history'' does he have? I guess you are going by all the lies that have been told about him, by all those women. Not ONE woman NOT one showed a ounce of factual evidence to back up any of their claims. And then, you want to say how could anyone be blackout drunk and is perfectly able to remember everything he did. But on the other hand, you are telling me that you believe all those woman that came forward which happened over 35 years ago. Some don't even remember how they got to the party or got home after.Sorry, having a hard time believing your side of the story on how it went down. Edit; what past crimes are you talking about? That is the sexist diatribe of morons who do not respect women or the realities of sexual assault and its pervasiveness. You are unworthy of my energies to further defend these women. Their claims were credible and while rapes are almost impossible to produce evidence for, Ford had the most circumstantial evidence I've ever seen for a rape case, one that was internally consistent with evidence Kavanaugh produced in his own defense. Your accusations and criticisms are unfounded As for Brett Kavanaugh, by his own admission he was a heavy and regular drinker. Now, maybe you in your isolated world have never really experienced a hard-partying frat boy. You might be the kind of guy who goes to the bar every evening and shoots down a couple of beers talking with the guys at your office. I can understand that maybe you've never really met people or been with people who exceed even 4 beers on a single night. However, the pattern he described, the behavior he described and his peers described are not the kind of drinking that you do in those bars. They're the kind of drinking you see in movies like Old School. And while not everyone who does that is an asshole and not everyone who does that is not a sexual assaulter and not everyone who does that is a bad person and none of them should be presumed to be bad for having those lifestyles, what is definitely true is that *all* of them have stories about the night they had so much fun and there were such amazing things but they don't remember any of it and can only tell the story now through the assistance of others reconstructing it the morning after.
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 11:11:26 GMT -5
Kavanaugh wants other people to lie for him too:
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 11:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 11:49:58 GMT -5
Yeah, this dumbass would never give away sensitive information.
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Post by DocDrama on Sept 19, 2019 12:07:52 GMT -5
Whistleblower: Trump Is a National Security Threat Somebody please make it stop: The whistleblower complaint that has triggered a tense showdown between the U.S. intelligence community and Congress involves President Trump’s communications with a foreign leader, according to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter. Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a “promise” that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community, said the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. I can’t tell you how much I would like to never write or hear the name Trump ever again. I mean, an intelligence official filing a whistleblower complaint against the president? That’s insane. And yet, here we are. www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/09/whistleblower-trump-is-a-national-security-threat/?fbclid=IwAR2xzGYRmvVQSI6DUNjfewgLYt4FO14ULfwGwySV6hY9fFyWFmlr983CZo4You can be sure this isn't the only scandal involving Donnie Default that we know about. There's probably a dozen more.
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 12:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by DocDrama on Sept 19, 2019 13:14:03 GMT -5
The World According To Wernie.
With all the sex scandals coming out for years against men in the Media, in Hollywood, in Professional Sports, in College Sports, in Washington, and in every other part of our society, Brett Kavanaugh is the only one who is completely innocent? And all the American citizens who witnessed his behavior at drunken parties in high school and college are lying? And all the women who say that he sexually harassed or raped or attempted to rape them are all liars?
Yet Wernie wants Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to resign because he wore "Brownface" at an 'Arabian Nights' party back in 2001? I think we can all see the Conservative 'Double Standard' being employed here. Everyone else in the world is a "Lib" or "Loser" or "Liar" except Conservatives. We're all prejudged just because Conservatives say so. 'Republican' is the new religion with a "Get Out Of Jail FREE Card" for every member. This reminds me of little children playing "pretend."
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Post by forgottenlord on Sept 19, 2019 13:15:28 GMT -5
And now that neighbor is complaining about our 20 year old bumper sticker
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Post by hey on Sept 19, 2019 13:16:53 GMT -5
So, I guess Trudeau lied about how many times he did black face. What is going on in the video? He has explained what was going on in the 2 photographs but not in the video. He appears to be wearing a tshirt and cut off jeans, jumping around making faces.
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 13:20:22 GMT -5
Yeah, what if trump stated that if re-elected he would normalize relations and drop sanctions?
Inviting the Russians for another round of election interference.
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Post by forgottenlord on Sept 19, 2019 13:20:26 GMT -5
So, I guess Trudeau lied about how many times he did black face. What is going on in the video? He has explained what was going on in the 2 photographs but not in the video. He appears to be wearing a tshirt and cut off jeans, jumping around making faces. I think Trudeau's waiting to see if more incidents are raised. It's hard to apologize... have another incident.... apologize again.... and repeat over and over again and have people still believe you.
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Post by hey on Sept 19, 2019 13:27:42 GMT -5
So, I guess Trudeau lied about how many times he did black face. What is going on in the video? He has explained what was going on in the 2 photographs but not in the video. He appears to be wearing a tshirt and cut off jeans, jumping around making faces. I think Trudeau's waiting to see if more incidents are raised. It's hard to apologize... have another incident.... apologize again.... and repeat over and over again and have people still believe you. Well if he wouldnt lie about how many incidences there are, he wouldn't have to wait to see what turns up. This seems to be a disturbing pattern in his behavior. One picture, sure its a youthful indiscretion. Two pictures, well that's just how the times were. He apologizes and claims that was the only 2 times. Now a video has emerged? Him being "woke" and a progressive leader with this scandal just screams hypocrisy. So much for getting in front of it.
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 13:34:56 GMT -5
I certainly look forward to the wing nuts demanding a reckoning for trump’s racist statements and actions. Maybe just an apology to start.
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Post by doddeb on Sept 19, 2019 13:38:22 GMT -5
This is the stuff that gets ignored by most media, but has the long term consequences. Presidents of both parties (yes, both) have gathered more power to the executive branch, but this administration doesn't acknowledge that the legislative has any oversight power at all, and runs roughshod over the power of the purse as well. One of the reasons Barr got his job was that he wrote several opinion pieces about the primacy of executive power in the American government model.
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Post by hey on Sept 19, 2019 13:39:46 GMT -5
I guess Ive never really paid attention to Trudeau or just not seen him on television but does he speak with a lisp? He appears to in the clip of him apologizing.
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Post by doddeb on Sept 19, 2019 13:39:56 GMT -5
Ya think?
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Post by doddeb on Sept 19, 2019 13:43:37 GMT -5
I certainly look forward to the wing nuts demanding a reckoning for trump’s racist statements and actions. Maybe just an apology to start. Keep breathing while ya wait, tho 😉
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 13:44:29 GMT -5
Former GOP intel chair spooked by Trump’s foreign phone call scandal: ‘This is a serious charge’ Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI), a former FBI special agent and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, found himself feeling unnerved by President Donald Trump’s latest scandal involving an alleged “promise” to a foreign leader that was flagged by a whistleblower within the intelligence community. Appearing on CNN, Rogers said that Congress does need to know more about the whistleblower complaint and he called it a “serious charge.” However, he also cautioned against airing things out in public because presidents are supposed to have significant flexibility when it comes to conducting foreign policy in secret. “The president does legally have the ability to promise anything he wants,” Rogers said. “He has, legally, the ability to declassify in an instant. So you have to make sure that what the whistleblower is saying isn’t the normal course of operations of the president. He may have disagreed with it, may have not liked it, but does it rise to the level of a criminal complaint?” Rogers then said learning more about the complaint is entirely valid because the intelligence community inspector general reviewed the complaint and found there was “something here.” Nonetheless, he cautioned Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) into showboating about this case because of how sensitive it is to the president’s powers under the Constitution. “This is a serious charge, it’s a serious allegation,” he said. “It needs to be handled in a serious way, but you don’t do it by having press conferences pointing fingers and implying that this is an awful, horrible thing.” www.rawstory.com/2019/09/former-gop-intel-chair-spooked-by-trumps-foreign-phone-call-scandal-this-is-a-serious-charge/I would agree with Rogers if Schiff had another option to force compliance with written law. This maladministration could have followed normal procedures but nooooooo...
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Post by doddeb on Sept 19, 2019 13:46:33 GMT -5
Seems to be going around, Leader Pelosi.
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Post by hey on Sept 19, 2019 13:48:38 GMT -5
I certainly look forward to the wing nuts demanding a reckoning for trump’s racist statements and actions. Maybe just an apology to start. Funny how Trump wasn't racist until 2015. Its the lefts typical playbook along with their media arm, no one on the right really believes or pays attention anymore. The word "racist" just doesn't have the effect it used to. That's sad for the people that it actually does affect.
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 19, 2019 13:50:35 GMT -5
Perspective.
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Post by forgottenlord on Sept 19, 2019 13:52:28 GMT -5
I think Trudeau's waiting to see if more incidents are raised. It's hard to apologize... have another incident.... apologize again.... and repeat over and over again and have people still believe you. Well if he wouldnt lie about how many incidences there are, he wouldn't have to wait to see what turns up. This seems to be a disturbing pattern in his behavior. One picture, sure its a youthful indiscretion. Two pictures, well that's just how the times were. He apologizes and claims that was the only 2 times. Now a video has emerged? Him being "woke" and a progressive leader with this scandal just screams hypocrisy. So much for getting in front of it. See, I actually took the alternate interpretation - each incident is from earlier and earlier in his life. His first apology was acknowledging it was wrong and that he now recognizes that it was racist and he shouldn't have done it. Since then we've seen earlier and earlier incidents. Other than "hey, there's more", there's nothing in his defense that was undermined by the new info
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 19, 2019 13:54:03 GMT -5
I certainly look forward to the wing nuts demanding a reckoning for trump’s racist statements and actions. Maybe just an apology to start. Funny how Trump wasn't racist until 2015. Its the lefts typical playbook along with their media arm, no one on the right really believes or pays attention anymore. The word "racist" just doesn't have the effect it used to. That's sad for the people that it actually does affect. Central Park Five He's racist. So shut it.
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Post by forgottenlord on Sept 19, 2019 13:54:50 GMT -5
I guess Ive never really paid attention to Trudeau or just not seen him on television but does he speak with a lisp? He appears to in the clip of him apologizing. He's a French Canadian who has figured out how to sound mostly like he's a native English speaker in English. There's some oddities in his accent because of this. I think
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 19, 2019 13:59:35 GMT -5
I certainly look forward to the wing nuts demanding a reckoning for trump’s racist statements and actions. Maybe just an apology to start. Funny how Trump wasn't racist until 2015. Its the lefts typical playbook along with their media arm, no one on the right really believes or pays attention anymore. The word "racist" just doesn't have the effect it used to. That's sad for the people that it actually does affect. Lie, trump has been a known racist since he was caught excluding blacks from his rental housing. Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career and life www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/racism-and-donald-trump-a-common-thread-throughout-his-career-and-life
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Post by doddeb on Sept 19, 2019 14:01:31 GMT -5
It's a problem, because clearly, the mocking is ongoing.
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Post by DocDrama on Sept 19, 2019 14:02:32 GMT -5
God hifternun! hehe: ![](https://i.imgur.com/g4HdZZb.jpg) Unicorn sighting! 'snicker'
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Post by hey on Sept 19, 2019 14:03:59 GMT -5
Funny how Trump wasn't racist until 2015. Its the lefts typical playbook along with their media arm, no one on the right really believes or pays attention anymore. The word "racist" just doesn't have the effect it used to. That's sad for the people that it actually does affect. Central Park Five He's racist. So shut it. Im convinced that the Central Park Five is guilty. Does that make me a racist?
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