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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 9:52:11 GMT -5
Trump deserves 'big credit' for sparking North Korea talks, South Korea's president saysPresident Trump deserves “big credit” for kicking off the first talks between Pyongyang and Seoul in more than two years, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said Wednesday. North Korea agreed Tuesday to send a delegation to next month’s Winter Olympics, which are set to begin next month in Pyeongchang, South Korea. The rival nations’ talks are the first sign of a possible thaw in their relationship. The talks were held for the first time since 2015 and Moon credited Trump for sparking them, according to Reuters. “I think President Trump deserves big credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks,” Moon said at a news conference. “It could be a resulting work of the U.S.-led sanctions and pressure.” www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/trump-deserves-big-credit-for-sparking-north-korea-talks-south-koreas-president-says.html
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 9:56:29 GMT -5
More on the puppet regime: A senior National Security Council official proposed withdrawing some U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe as an overture to Vladimir Putin during the early days of the Trump presidency, according to two former administration officials. While the proposal was ultimately not adopted, it is the first known case of senior aides to Donald Trump seeking to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin—something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump. The White House did not immediately respond to The Daily Beast’s request for comment. The official who offered the proposal, a deputy assistant to Trump for strategic planning, mused in February 2017 about withdrawing U.S. troops close to Russian borders as part of a strategy proposal to “refram[e] our interests within the context of a new relationship with Russia,” the former official told The Daily Beast, who heard this directly from the official, Kevin Harrington. Harrington is the NSC’s senior official for strategic planning. He had neither military experience nor significant government experience before joining the White House. But he had an influential credential: As a managing director for the Thiel Macro hedge fund, he was close to Trump patron and ally Peter Thiel. Trump’s first national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, announced Harrington’s arrival in early February as part of a “talented group” ready to bring “fresh ideas to the table.” www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-official-floated-withdrawing-us-forces-to-please-putin?ref=homeSo, the fact that Trump did not withdraw the troops is proof that he is a "puppet?" What would you call him if he had removed the troops?
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Post by Outsider on Jan 10, 2018 10:00:02 GMT -5
More on the puppet regime: A senior National Security Council official proposed withdrawing some U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe as an overture to Vladimir Putin during the early days of the Trump presidency, according to two former administration officials. While the proposal was ultimately not adopted, it is the first known case of senior aides to Donald Trump seeking to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin—something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump. The White House did not immediately respond to The Daily Beast’s request for comment. The official who offered the proposal, a deputy assistant to Trump for strategic planning, mused in February 2017 about withdrawing U.S. troops close to Russian borders as part of a strategy proposal to “refram[e] our interests within the context of a new relationship with Russia,” the former official told The Daily Beast, who heard this directly from the official, Kevin Harrington. Harrington is the NSC’s senior official for strategic planning. He had neither military experience nor significant government experience before joining the White House. But he had an influential credential: As a managing director for the Thiel Macro hedge fund, he was close to Trump patron and ally Peter Thiel. Trump’s first national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, announced Harrington’s arrival in early February as part of a “talented group” ready to bring “fresh ideas to the table.” www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-official-floated-withdrawing-us-forces-to-please-putin?ref=homeSo, the fact that Trump did not withdraw the troops is proof that he is a "puppet?" What would you call him if he had removed the troops? The fact that someone in this administration - in fact a member of the security council even thought to float this doesn't raise your eyebrows a bit? That doesn't strike you as irregular?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:02:08 GMT -5
So, the fact that Trump did not withdraw the troops is proof that he is a "puppet?" What would you call him if he had removed the troops? The fact that someone in this administration - in fact a member of the security council even thought to float this doesn't raise your eyebrows a bit? That doesn't strike you as irregular? Think if Obama had someone in his security council that advised to give financial support to the government in Kenya....
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 10:11:45 GMT -5
So, the fact that Trump did not withdraw the troops is proof that he is a "puppet?" What would you call him if he had removed the troops? The fact that someone in this administration - in fact a member of the security council even thought to float this doesn't raise your eyebrows a bit? That doesn't strike you as irregular? No, I'm sure a lot of ideas are floated and rejected daily.
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 10:14:05 GMT -5
The fact that someone in this administration - in fact a member of the security council even thought to float this doesn't raise your eyebrows a bit? That doesn't strike you as irregular? Think if Obama had someone in his security council that advised to give financial support to the government in Kenya.... Just a guess here but I'm willing to bet that we give financial aid to Kenya already.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:21:35 GMT -5
Think if Obama had someone in his security council that advised to give financial support to the government in Kenya.... Just a guess here but I'm willing to bet that we give financial aid to Kenya already. The USa does already, for the last 50 yers, but for specific programs such as tubercolosis, malaria, etc. prevention, not to please government officials plans. Because if there is suspicion of foul play: U.S. suspends aid to Kenyan health ministry over corruption concernsaf.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN1851SC-OZATPI was talking about Obama specifically.
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SigDig for Wednesday, 1/10/2018 Good morning, Hive! 30 arrests
A man who was arrested 30 times for stealing buses and trains while disguised as a transit worker will be sent to a mental health facility. Making this case more interesting, Darius McCollum drove the vehicles on their routes when he commandeered the vehicles. McCollum, who seems to have lived out the least ambitious homage to “Catch Me If You Can” possible, was in trouble this time for stealing a Greyhound bus in 2015.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 10, 2018 10:28:31 GMT -5
Think if Obama had someone in his security council that advised to give financial support to the government in Kenya.... Just a guess here but I'm willing to bet that we give financial aid to Kenya already. $446 million in 2016, hey. Which was down from the prior recorded year. www.usaid.gov/kenya
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:28:39 GMT -5
WND, an extremely conservative, if not far right news source ( It has drawn controversy for its promotion of conspiracy theories, including ones about Barack Obama's citizenship.) which inserts links as reference... yet those links don't work or are connected to non-existing search result? According to a Statement of Work for the USAID/Kenya program-support initiative
Note: The requested notice cannot be found.www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=list&tab=list&_nfound=1Seems weak to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:29:16 GMT -5
Just a guess here but I'm willing to bet that we give financial aid to Kenya already. $446 million in 2016, hey. Which was down from the prior recorded year. www.usaid.gov/kenyaBom. As I said, weak. Weak like you, hey.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 10, 2018 10:31:55 GMT -5
A nearly six-year-old link really really REALLY helps your argument 🤔
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Post by Outsider on Jan 10, 2018 10:32:59 GMT -5
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE Here, at BlueStateDaily, we recently reported on the top gerrymandering cases currently underway around the country in 2018. Today, one of those cases reached a decision, and the Republicans are losing their minds. A panel of federal judges in North Carolina struck down the state’s congressional map, condemning it as unconstitutional. The judges say that the Republicans who drew the map were clearly seeking a political advantage. This is a landmark case because it is the first time in United States history that a federal court blocked a congressional map because of partisan gerrymandering. There are Republican seats now in extreme danger in the upcoming election cycles. INVIDIOUS PARTISAN INTENT Judge James A. Wynn Jr. wrote a 191-page opinion on the case which the New York Times called “biting.” In it, he stated that North Carolina’s Republican legislators were “motivated by invidious partisan intent,” when they drew up the map in question. The ruling also included a few demands. Chief of which is one in which the Republican-led legislature will now need to create a new map with new congressional districts no later than January 24th. If they don’t meet the deadline and present a “remedial plan,” by the deadline, the court will do it for them. MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER Partisan Gerrymandering has been a contentious issue for quite some time. For many decades the courts have mainly tried to stay out of it, even attempting to bow out altogether, claiming not to be qualified to make such decisions. However, within the last decade, the political divide has deepened, and the map drawing software has improved such that the courts have now been forced, once again, back into the fray. If the Supreme Court made a ruling against partisan gerrymandering, it could “reshape the political landscape,” according to New York Times reporters Alan Blinder and Michael Wines. REPUBLICANS ARE PISSED Republicans, of course, realize that the only advantage they had in some of these areas was because of those unfairly gerrymandered maps, and now that they are losing that edge they are really pissed off. Dallas Woodhouse criticized Judge Wynn and accused him of “waging a personal, partisan war on North Carolina Republicans.” He also seems to be suggesting that North Carolina Republicans plan to take this to the Supreme Court, which is their right. The unprecedented usurping of legislative authority by Judge Wynn, will most certainly be stayed by the US Supreme Court. @ncgop — Dallas Woodhouse (@dallaswoodhouse) January 10, 2018 EVERYONE ELSE IS DELIGHTED WITH THE DECISION The Republicans seem to be the only ones who are angry about the ruling, however. Many critics are applauding not only the decision but the urgency at which it was delivered. “Clearly, the courts have realized that they do need to step in and police extreme partisan gerrymanders, and the court recognized that North Carolina’s gerrymander was on eof the most extreme in history,” said Ruth Greenwood, senior legal counsel at the Campaign Legal Center. Republicans in the state can request a stay from the U.S. Supreme Court which could potentially hold up redistricting until after the 2018 election cycle in November. bluestatedaily.com/dominoes-started-fall-landmark-ruling-gerrymandering-case/?utm_source=BSD&utm_medium=content&utm_campaign=ANXarticles
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 10:35:13 GMT -5
Bom. As I said, weak. Weak like you, hey. Weak, like me? Are you trying to be funny or are you just childish?
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 10, 2018 10:36:07 GMT -5
Bom. As I said, weak. Weak like you, hey. Now granted the aid is about 80% more in '16 than it was in '12.
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 10:36:49 GMT -5
A nearly six-year-old link really really REALLY helps your argument 🤔 He didn't go past the title. "Bu- bu- bu- mooommmyyyy," snot snot " I found something against the 'Obama guy!" "Honey, that's as valid as your 5th grade - which you need to attend again." "Bu- bu- moooommyyyy, Obama is bad! Tump Good! Trump told me so!" "Honey, go eat a cookie." "Yyyeeeee" I didn't say Obama was bad for giving aid to Kenya. Your original argument was ridiculous to say the least, grow up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:39:03 GMT -5
Bom. As I said, weak. Weak like you, hey. Now granted the aid is about 80% more in '16 than it was in '12. Good to know. Fair is fair. But, were are the USA playing favorites with Kenya, or they increased spending on a number of foreign aids? Are they helping specific government officials? Are they playing favorites with Kenya's specific foreign policy? Not that I know of, but I am open to read any links anybody posts.
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Post by hey on Jan 10, 2018 10:39:26 GMT -5
A nearly six-year-old link really really REALLY helps your argument 🤔 How long does it take before information becomes invalid? Should we throw out all history books that are older than 6 years?
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 10, 2018 10:41:30 GMT -5
A lot of centrist Democrats have that philosophy. You can believe self-determination is a major factor while still believing in progressive taxes, in public good and social programs to ensure we have the tools available to ourselves to seek our personal wealth and success, in regulations preventing excesses in corporations, etc. And it is hard to imagine that a black woman doesn't know the horrors of racial and sexual injustice in this world. I think Liberal Democrats tend to believe that luck is a much larger factor in personal success - particularly the luck of birth but luck of school and health and so on - and that broader success comes from the government countering that luck by ensuring equal opportunities. It is easy to imagine how the richest woman and richest black American who did not have rich parents might not necessarily believe that. There are no centrist Democrats. That's just how they talk-not act. They are just as radical as the Republicans. That's why the majority of voters are Independents. You don't live here so you don't know what you're talking about. And that's a big problem with the Canadians on this site. You are radicals too but won't face it. I know that for a fact because I hold positions on both left and right. A good example is none of my family and friends wanted Hillary or Trump for President. Both are too radical. Your use of the term radical is fascinating. I mean, you argue that you hold perspectives of both the left and the right, suggesting you are somewhere between the parties and then call Democrats radical when in reality, I believe you are referring to (at least your perception of) them being just as corporatist as Republicans One other point worth noting: you live in a major Californian city - and not just any city, but the State Capital. That's blue on blue on blue. That's not a shot at you or the people you know but rather just a point that your local community is unlikely to really reflect the broader consensus of America. I suspect you'll find that a community in Pittsburgh has significantly different perspectives on where the parties stand. And Trenton, Ohio would be even more different
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Post by Outsider on Jan 10, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5
The Post reports: Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has told President Trump’s legal team that his office is likely to seek an interview with the president, triggering a discussion among his attorneys about how to avoid a sit-down encounter or set limits on such a session, according to two people familiar with the talks. Mueller raised the issue of interviewing Trump during a late-December meeting with the president’s lawyers John Dowd and Jay Sekulow. Mueller deputy James Quarles, who oversees the White House portion of the special counsel investigation, also attended. The special counsel’s team could interview Trump soon on some limited portion of questions — possibly within the next several weeks, according to a person close to the president, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal conversations. The request reveals two disagreeable aspects of the Russia investigation. First, the investigation, Trump’s lawyers must certainly have divined, is very much about Trump. This is not about whether “anyone” on the campaign colluded/conspired with the Russians but about whether he did or was aware of such action, and, more seriously for Trump, whether he has committed obstruction of justice or other criminal or impeachable acts in attempting to thwart the investigation. Second, while Trump once boasted that he’d be willing to testify under oath, his lawyers would be committing gross malpractice to let him do so. Without a skilled prosecutor to press him, Trump admitted in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt that he had Russia in mind when he fired FBI Director James B. Comey. Imagine how things could go when Mueller queries him with the benefit of evidence acquired from document requests (e.g., the original draft of the memo firing Comey) and testimony taken under oath from others. The potential for Trump — who has never appeared to really understand that there is anything wrong with ordering the Justice Department to lay off a former aide or drop an investigation and who seems to assume the attorney general’s job is to protect him — to implicate himself is great. (Well, of course I told Comey to lay off Mike Flynn!) No matter how prepared he is, Trump’s impulsiveness and conviction he is his own best defender may lead him down perilous paths. He may not only contradict himself but multiple other, credible witnesses, as well as documentary evidence. It’s a minefield even for the most intelligent and disciplined witness. “The risk is that Trump would either incriminate himself, commit perjury, or lie — unless he truly has committed no offense and has nothing to fear from telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,” constitutional lawyer Laurence H. Tribe tells me. “I regard that ‘unless’ as extremely implausible.” He adds, “That said, I wouldn’t have have him plead the Fifth. That option isn’t realistically available to a sitting president, who simply can’t afford the steep political price that taking the Fifth would inevitably exact.” Legally, the president is entitled to plead the Fifth Amendment even if he maintains he cannot be indicted in office. The relevant Office of Legal Counsel opinion makes clear: “Recognizing an immunity from prosecution for a sitting President would not preclude such prosecution once the President’s term is over or he is otherwise removed from office by resignation or impeachment. . . . [T]he immunity from indictment and criminal prosecution for a sitting President would generally result in the delay, but not the forbearance, of any criminal trial.” Fordham Law School professor Jed Shugerman reasons, “Thus, he still has the privilege against self-incrimination for that later criminal liability.” Nevertheless, the hullabaloo and the implication of guilt, fairly or not, would likely be politically lethal. Neal Katyal, former acting solicitor general, agrees that while Trump’s Fifth Amendment rights to avoid self-incrimination apply since “any testimony he gives now could be used to incriminate him down the line,” the political consequences would be debilitating. Katyal predicts that, “should he go down that road, it would look Nixonian and catalyze his downfall.” With indications that special counsel Robert Mueller is seeking an interview with President Trump, here are some burning questions his team will want to ask. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post) Knowing all this, it is highly unlikely the special prosecutor would “settle” for a written statement crafted by Trump’s attorneys. He’s going to press to get Trump talking under oath about everything from his drafting on Air Force One of the inaccurate statement explaining the Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian officials to Trump’s financial dealmaking with Russia. If Trump refuses to testify without invoking the Fifth, Mueller would have the option to subpoena him to testify in front of the grand jury, where his lawyer would not be present. If Trump does invoke the Fifth, his presidency would be at risk. For all of Trump’s boasting that he’s done everything right (100 percent!) and his lawyer’s ludicrous assertions that a president cannot commit obstruction of justice, the prospect for Trump to be interviewed under oath presents the greatest risk to his presidency yet. Look for a lot of political maneuvering, excuse-making and spin. In the end, however, Mueller has the power to compel Trump to testify; Trump might have a theoretical legal right to refuse, but as a practical matter, he in all likelihood will have to testify — and therefore put himself in grave legal and political peril. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/01/09/trump-on-the-stand-the-greatest-political-and-legal-peril-hes-ever-faced/?utm_term=.0518f21f98ec
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SigDig for Wednesday, 1/10/2018 Good morning, Hive! 30 arrests
A man who was arrested 30 times for stealing buses and trains while disguised as a transit worker will be sent to a mental health facility. Making this case more interesting, Darius McCollum drove the vehicles on their routes when he commandeered the vehicles. McCollum, who seems to have lived out the least ambitious homage to “Catch Me If You Can” possible, was in trouble this time for stealing a Greyhound bus in 2015. Such a shame. I can understand why the policy exists for the MTA, but this guy is clearly someone who would be passionate about the job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:47:47 GMT -5
He didn't go past the title. "Bu- bu- bu- mooommmyyyy," snot snot " I found something against the 'Obama guy!" "Honey, that's as valid as your 5th grade - which you need to attend again." "Bu- bu- moooommyyyy, Obama is bad! Tump Good! Trump told me so!" "Honey, go eat a cookie." "Yyyeeeee" I didn't say Obama was bad for giving aid to Kenya. Your original argument was ridiculous to say the least, grow up. Aye I had a silly moment, it happens, hence why I deleted that post.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 10, 2018 10:47:51 GMT -5
There are no centrist Democrats. That's just how they talk-not act. They are just as radical as the Republicans. That's why the majority of voters are Independents. You don't live here so you don't know what you're talking about. And that's a big problem with the Canadians on this site. You are radicals too but won't face it. I know that for a fact because I hold positions on both left and right. A good example is none of my family and friends wanted Hillary or Trump for President. Both are too radical. Your use of the term radical is fascinating. I mean, you argue that you hold perspectives of both the left and the right, suggesting you are somewhere between the parties and then call Democrats radical when in reality, I believe you are referring to (at least your perception of) them being just as corporatist as Republicans One other point worth noting: you live in a major Californian city - and not just any city, but the State Capital. That's blue on blue on blue. That's not a shot at you or the people you know but rather just a point that your local community is unlikely to really reflect the broader consensus of America. I suspect you'll find that a community in Pittsburgh has significantly different perspectives on where the parties stand. And Trenton, Ohio would be even more different For one, tell Orly we said hi! Secondly, if you're gonna make an argument then it does kinda help to get the most recent info available.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:51:51 GMT -5
A nearly six-year-old link really really REALLY helps your argument 🤔 How long does it take before information becomes invalid? Should we throw out all history books that are older than 6 years? It seems the link you posted was written before the increase of spending as shown by foggy, making the argument that Obama's adminsitration was playing favorites invalid.
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 10, 2018 10:52:36 GMT -5
Your use of the term radical is fascinating. I mean, you argue that you hold perspectives of both the left and the right, suggesting you are somewhere between the parties and then call Democrats radical when in reality, I believe you are referring to (at least your perception of) them being just as corporatist as Republicans One other point worth noting: you live in a major Californian city - and not just any city, but the State Capital. That's blue on blue on blue. That's not a shot at you or the people you know but rather just a point that your local community is unlikely to really reflect the broader consensus of America. I suspect you'll find that a community in Pittsburgh has significantly different perspectives on where the parties stand. And Trenton, Ohio would be even more different For one, tell Orly we said hi! Secondly, if you're gonna make an argument then it does kinda help to get the most recent info available. ? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:57:44 GMT -5
There is a history of politicians trying to manipulate withholding, through obscure tables issued by the IRS, with an eye toward providing a short-term boost to the economy. President George H.W. Bush tried it ahead of the 1992 election, and the 1986 tax overhaul attempted [Reagan administration] , unsuccessfully, to quash refunds altogether.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 10, 2018 11:18:48 GMT -5
IPEEA.
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