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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 10:50:00 GMT -5
David Duke was happy with Trump's treason presser:
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Post by DocDrama on Jul 17, 2018 11:03:21 GMT -5
Depressing News Overload.
It really sucks to be an American at this time. I'm skipping over many Trump stories and not coming here
as much. It's nothing against you my fellow Swamphivers, I've just had it up to my eyebrows. Very depressing!
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 11:16:40 GMT -5
Even the dictionary has had it
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 12:16:58 GMT -5
From a GOP strategist!  Im a cult member because I don't believe exactly what you want me to? Oh, the irony. |
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 12:18:27 GMT -5
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 12:25:18 GMT -5
Wow, the hysteria here is on overdrive. Don't worry, next week the media will conjure up something new for you to be outraged at all over again.
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 12:39:29 GMT -5
Sorry, but ‘election meddling’ isn’t even in the top 10 most important issues we have with Russia It's all the press cares about, because they still fantasize that it can somehow lead to the indictment (never) or impeachment (pretty close to never) of Donald Trump. Never has the U.S. news media been more gobsmacked by an event than they were by Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, and they still haven’t gotten over it or accepted that the American public declined to follow their instructions. If the Russians “meddled” in the election, then maybe Trump didn’t really win. And if Trump colluded with them, then there’s cause to get rid of him! So because they’re obsessed with it this topic, they are going to be absolutely outraged if Trump is not. Since this is all they want to ask Putin about, it had damn well better be the only thing Trump wants to talk to Putin about. He’d better wag his finger at Putin and tell him, bad! Don’t do that again! And if Trump doesn’t do this, then he’s going to be roundly denounced as having disgraced the office of the presidency and the entire country, which of course is exactly what’s happening: Anderson Cooper and those of his ilk can rage all they want, but here’s why Trump is never going to give them what they want: Trump understands that the one Russia topic that interests them is nowhere near the most important issue with which we need a reckoning with Russia. Russia is assisting Iran and probably North Korea in their development of nuclear weapons. Russia is an obstacle to the establishment of needed missile defenses in Eastern Europe. Russia is trying to dominate international energy markets in order to expand its geopolitical influence at the expense of the United States. Russia is propping up Bashar Assad’s murderous regime in Syria. Russia runs interference for the tormenters of Israel at the United Nations. Russia is floating low-interest loans to help prop up the socialist regime in Venezuela. Russia routinely harasses and sometimes jails political opponents of Vladimir Putin. Russia is still occupying the Crimean Peninsula in blatant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Russia controls about 20 percent of all the uranium in the United States, but we can thank Hillary Clinton for that. The fact of the matter is that we have far more serious issues with Russia than the hacking of John Podesta’s e-mail, so that everyone would know what Hillary’s campaign chair thinks of Christians. If we were really serious about this whole meddling business, we would have done a lot more than indict 12 Russians we never expect to see in a courtroom. The election meddling is the media’s obsession. There’s no reason Trump needs to let it be his. And if he takes the media’s cue and lambastes Putin on that stage, then he’s letting them set the agenda for his dealings with Putin. If you’re outraged that the Russians tried to meddle in our election, too bad. They’ve been meddling in American affairs for as long as the two countries have existed, and every U.S. president has known it. Whatever our president wants to say to their president about it, he doesn’t have to say it on the media’s cue in a public setting. And if he really wants to talk to the Russians about important issues between us, there’s a long list he should be dealing with before he gets to election meddling. canadafreepress.com/article/sorry-but-election-meddling-isnt-even-in-the-top-10-most-important-issues-w |
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 12:50:35 GMT -5
The only Republican that resigned in protest, that I know of, is the Belmont County, Ohio chairman
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 12:50:35 GMT -5
Sorry, but ‘election meddling’ isn’t even in the top 10 most important issues we have with Russia It's all the press cares about, because they still fantasize that it can somehow lead to the indictment (never) or impeachment (pretty close to never) of Donald Trump. Never has the U.S. news media been more gobsmacked by an event than they were by Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, and they still haven’t gotten over it or accepted that the American public declined to follow their instructions. If the Russians “meddled” in the election, then maybe Trump didn’t really win. And if Trump colluded with them, then there’s cause to get rid of him! So because they’re obsessed with it this topic, they are going to be absolutely outraged if Trump is not. Since this is all they want to ask Putin about, it had damn well better be the only thing Trump wants to talk to Putin about. He’d better wag his finger at Putin and tell him, bad! Don’t do that again! And if Trump doesn’t do this, then he’s going to be roundly denounced as having disgraced the office of the presidency and the entire country, which of course is exactly what’s happening: Anderson Cooper and those of his ilk can rage all they want, but here’s why Trump is never going to give them what they want: Trump understands that the one Russia topic that interests them is nowhere near the most important issue with which we need a reckoning with Russia. Russia is assisting Iran and probably North Korea in their development of nuclear weapons. Russia is an obstacle to the establishment of needed missile defenses in Eastern Europe. Russia is trying to dominate international energy markets in order to expand its geopolitical influence at the expense of the United States. Russia is propping up Bashar Assad’s murderous regime in Syria. Russia runs interference for the tormenters of Israel at the United Nations. Russia is floating low-interest loans to help prop up the socialist regime in Venezuela. Russia routinely harasses and sometimes jails political opponents of Vladimir Putin. Russia is still occupying the Crimean Peninsula in blatant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Russia controls about 20 percent of all the uranium in the United States, but we can thank Hillary Clinton for that. The fact of the matter is that we have far more serious issues with Russia than the hacking of John Podesta’s e-mail, so that everyone would know what Hillary’s campaign chair thinks of Christians. If we were really serious about this whole meddling business, we would have done a lot more than indict 12 Russians we never expect to see in a courtroom. The election meddling is the media’s obsession. There’s no reason Trump needs to let it be his. And if he takes the media’s cue and lambastes Putin on that stage, then he’s letting them set the agenda for his dealings with Putin. If you’re outraged that the Russians tried to meddle in our election, too bad. They’ve been meddling in American affairs for as long as the two countries have existed, and every U.S. president has known it. Whatever our president wants to say to their president about it, he doesn’t have to say it on the media’s cue in a public setting. And if he really wants to talk to the Russians about important issues between us, there’s a long list he should be dealing with before he gets to election meddling. canadafreepress.com/article/sorry-but-election-meddling-isnt-even-in-the-top-10-most-important-issues-wSo you've just confirmed it:
EDIT: Let's forget about policy for a moment and focus on patriotism. The lecher doesn't even hide the fact that he can be a bully to his own people and to every leader in the EU, but cowers when his buddy Putie shows up. Afraid to criticize him, can't think of anything negative to say about him, hides the bitter pill of Russian election interference inside of a doggy treat of his rationalization. The man (b/c such gender he is) is as feckless as Neville Chamberlain and his appeasement of Nazis generations ago.
You know this, yet refuse to acknowledge it.
And to take a Canadian guy to make your point about US patriotism...?
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 12:56:14 GMT -5
You have to wonder - considering what Trump said publically - what did he say privately? Before Russia: Annexed Crimea Shot down passenger plane Meddled in our election and elections in Europe Attempted murder of people in U.K. with nerve agent Context matters to some, others not so much. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 12:58:57 GMT -5
Tell Vlad that I will have more flexibility after the election Before Russia: Annexed Crimea Shot down passenger plane Meddled in our election and elections in Europe Attempted murder of people in U.K. with nerve agent Context matters to some, others not so much. Correction: One actual murder (lady died last week from the nerve agent). |
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 13:00:03 GMT -5
Wow, the hysteria here is on overdrive. Don't worry, next week the media will conjure up something new for you to be outraged at all over again. Doubt it on this one. Having to pry trump’s lips off putin’s ass with crowbars is gonna leave a mark. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 13:02:15 GMT -5
The lecher's gonna speak soon to clarify his remarks. I'm looking for Kelly to get the hook out.
This is a crisis of incompetence.
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 13:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 13:16:13 GMT -5
Sorry, but ‘election meddling’ isn’t even in the top 10 most important issues we have with Russia It's all the press cares about, because they still fantasize that it can somehow lead to the indictment (never) or impeachment (pretty close to never) of Donald Trump. Never has the U.S. news media been more gobsmacked by an event than they were by Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, and they still haven’t gotten over it or accepted that the American public declined to follow their instructions. If the Russians “meddled” in the election, then maybe Trump didn’t really win. And if Trump colluded with them, then there’s cause to get rid of him! So because they’re obsessed with it this topic, they are going to be absolutely outraged if Trump is not. Since this is all they want to ask Putin about, it had damn well better be the only thing Trump wants to talk to Putin about. He’d better wag his finger at Putin and tell him, bad! Don’t do that again! And if Trump doesn’t do this, then he’s going to be roundly denounced as having disgraced the office of the presidency and the entire country, which of course is exactly what’s happening: Anderson Cooper and those of his ilk can rage all they want, but here’s why Trump is never going to give them what they want: Trump understands that the one Russia topic that interests them is nowhere near the most important issue with which we need a reckoning with Russia. Russia is assisting Iran and probably North Korea in their development of nuclear weapons. Russia is an obstacle to the establishment of needed missile defenses in Eastern Europe. Russia is trying to dominate international energy markets in order to expand its geopolitical influence at the expense of the United States. Russia is propping up Bashar Assad’s murderous regime in Syria. Russia runs interference for the tormenters of Israel at the United Nations. Russia is floating low-interest loans to help prop up the socialist regime in Venezuela. Russia routinely harasses and sometimes jails political opponents of Vladimir Putin. Russia is still occupying the Crimean Peninsula in blatant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Russia controls about 20 percent of all the uranium in the United States, but we can thank Hillary Clinton for that. The fact of the matter is that we have far more serious issues with Russia than the hacking of John Podesta’s e-mail, so that everyone would know what Hillary’s campaign chair thinks of Christians. If we were really serious about this whole meddling business, we would have done a lot more than indict 12 Russians we never expect to see in a courtroom. The election meddling is the media’s obsession. There’s no reason Trump needs to let it be his. And if he takes the media’s cue and lambastes Putin on that stage, then he’s letting them set the agenda for his dealings with Putin. If you’re outraged that the Russians tried to meddle in our election, too bad. They’ve been meddling in American affairs for as long as the two countries have existed, and every U.S. president has known it. Whatever our president wants to say to their president about it, he doesn’t have to say it on the media’s cue in a public setting. And if he really wants to talk to the Russians about important issues between us, there’s a long list he should be dealing with before he gets to election meddling. canadafreepress.com/article/sorry-but-election-meddling-isnt-even-in-the-top-10-most-important-issues-wWhat a load of crap. Trump wants to appease Putin on the missile systems, he and his cronies changed the republican platform to reflect that and the NATO trashing he did last week. Trump wants to give putin Syria and even publicly stated that he wanted to pull US troops out. Trump wants to cede Crimea to Russia because they are russian speakers, his words. Lift sanctions on Russians placed due to Crimea being annexed and invading Ukraine and Georgia. Russian company does not control any uranium in US, lie debunked when it first came out. |
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Post by DocDrama on Jul 17, 2018 13:18:24 GMT -5
From a GOP strategist! Im a cult member because I don't believe exactly what you want me to? Oh, the irony. Hey, This has nothing to do with political parties. This has everything to do with being a traitor to your country. If that's not clear enough; what does being a Republican have to do with siding with Russia over the USA? |
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 13:19:08 GMT -5
OSU, like most large institutions (Penn State!), is great at cover-ups. I had my #MeToo moment there, along with six other women, because of a faculty member who wasn't even coy about his harassment. We filed a grievance with the encouragement of the university, and we lost our jobs. He got tenure. I hope these guys have better luck.
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 13:40:30 GMT -5
Steve!
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 13:58:20 GMT -5
"I meant to say 'would' instead of 'wouldn't"  |
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 13:59:45 GMT -5
Trump Didn't Flout GOP Norms — He Epitomized Them When the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union collapsed, the American Right was faced with a conundrum. For most of the 20th century, it had defined itself by its anti-communism, the sole idea on which all wings of the disparate conservative community could agree. Moreover, anti-communism gave the Republicans a handy club with which to beat Democrats, since they could always attack the Democrats for being either soft on communism or, since Democrats believed in a mixed economy, being closet communists themselves. Then as now, Republicans were seldom deterred by an absence of evidence. But with the 1991-1992 dissolution of the Soviet Union, the barbarians were no longer at the gate. The immediate beneficiary of this brave new world was presidential candidate Bill Clinton, whom the Republicans couldn’t attack, in the sudden absence of communism, for being soft on communism. There was still China, of course, but Republicans in those days and for some time thereafter liked China as a place where American corporations could do business. Over the past quarter-century, however, Republicans have risen to the occasion: They have invented an enemy within whose purported terrors still drive GOP voters to the polls. The process began right after the Commies disappeared, in the 1992 Republican primaries, when Pat Buchanan proclaimed a culture war on liberals, minorities, and modernity itself—that is, on his fellow Americans. By 1994, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh were singing from the same foul hymnal, and one year later Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes came along to swell the chorus. From that time forth, the Republican mantra was established: The enemy was here; the enemy was modernity; the enemy was the Democrats. Then, a decade ago, Buchanan struck again. In his columns, he began noting that Vladimir Putin, while a onetime KGB-nik, was also becoming the leading figure on the world scene to oppose homosexuality and other egalitarian liberal deviations. Putin’s our guy, Buchanan concluded, waging the kind of war for traditional patriarchal authority and against his liberals that we Republicans need to wage against ours. (Having grown up in a household that vehemently supported Francisco Franco’s fascists in the Spanish Civil War, Buchanan had a chronic soft spot for authoritarians.) Yesterday, what was once Buchanan’s eccentricity became the official policy of the president of the United States. Trump probably doesn’t give a hoot about Putin’s leadership of the war on gays, but as a nationalist patriarchal authoritarian thug, Putin is Trump’s kind of guy. Yes, Trump believes that he needs to back Putin up on the electoral interference question because it calls into question his victory; yes, perhaps Trump fears that Putin and his comrades have got the goods on him and he’d better go along with whatever they say. But what we saw yesterday was also the reductio-ad-absurdum of the great Republican switcheroo: With the Communists gone, our real enemy is the enemy at home. And so a KGB thug with blood on his hands is the Republican president’s man, while Robert Mueller and the FBI are the cancer growing within. This is completely nuts, but it is also the logical culmination of the last 25 years of Republican evolution. prospect.org/blog/tapped/trump-didnt-flout-gop-norms-he-epitomized-them |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 14:01:32 GMT -5
IOW, since MSM knew about Russia's support for me two months before the election why didn't they stop me?
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 14:17:52 GMT -5
"I meant to say 'would' instead of 'wouldn't" Don’t you mean the opposite? |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 17, 2018 14:27:44 GMT -5
"I meant to say 'would' instead of 'wouldn't" Don’t you mean the opposite? Stop confusing me with facks, dangit! |
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 14:31:42 GMT -5
Sorry, but ‘election meddling’ isn’t even in the top 10 most important issues we have with Russia It's all the press cares about, because they still fantasize that it can somehow lead to the indictment (never) or impeachment (pretty close to never) of Donald Trump. Never has the U.S. news media been more gobsmacked by an event than they were by Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, and they still haven’t gotten over it or accepted that the American public declined to follow their instructions. If the Russians “meddled” in the election, then maybe Trump didn’t really win. And if Trump colluded with them, then there’s cause to get rid of him! So because they’re obsessed with it this topic, they are going to be absolutely outraged if Trump is not. Since this is all they want to ask Putin about, it had damn well better be the only thing Trump wants to talk to Putin about. He’d better wag his finger at Putin and tell him, bad! Don’t do that again! And if Trump doesn’t do this, then he’s going to be roundly denounced as having disgraced the office of the presidency and the entire country, which of course is exactly what’s happening: Anderson Cooper and those of his ilk can rage all they want, but here’s why Trump is never going to give them what they want: Trump understands that the one Russia topic that interests them is nowhere near the most important issue with which we need a reckoning with Russia. Russia is assisting Iran and probably North Korea in their development of nuclear weapons. Russia is an obstacle to the establishment of needed missile defenses in Eastern Europe. Russia is trying to dominate international energy markets in order to expand its geopolitical influence at the expense of the United States. Russia is propping up Bashar Assad’s murderous regime in Syria. Russia runs interference for the tormenters of Israel at the United Nations. Russia is floating low-interest loans to help prop up the socialist regime in Venezuela. Russia routinely harasses and sometimes jails political opponents of Vladimir Putin. Russia is still occupying the Crimean Peninsula in blatant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Russia controls about 20 percent of all the uranium in the United States, but we can thank Hillary Clinton for that. The fact of the matter is that we have far more serious issues with Russia than the hacking of John Podesta’s e-mail, so that everyone would know what Hillary’s campaign chair thinks of Christians. If we were really serious about this whole meddling business, we would have done a lot more than indict 12 Russians we never expect to see in a courtroom. The election meddling is the media’s obsession. There’s no reason Trump needs to let it be his. And if he takes the media’s cue and lambastes Putin on that stage, then he’s letting them set the agenda for his dealings with Putin. If you’re outraged that the Russians tried to meddle in our election, too bad. They’ve been meddling in American affairs for as long as the two countries have existed, and every U.S. president has known it. Whatever our president wants to say to their president about it, he doesn’t have to say it on the media’s cue in a public setting. And if he really wants to talk to the Russians about important issues between us, there’s a long list he should be dealing with before he gets to election meddling. canadafreepress.com/article/sorry-but-election-meddling-isnt-even-in-the-top-10-most-important-issues-wSo you've just confirmed it:
EDIT: Let's forget about policy for a moment and focus on patriotism. The lecher doesn't even hide the fact that he can be a bully to his own people and to every leader in the EU, but cowers when his buddy Putie shows up. Afraid to criticize him, can't think of anything negative to say about him, hides the bitter pill of Russian election interference inside of a doggy treat of his rationalization. The man (b/c such gender he is) is as feckless as Neville Chamberlain and his appeasement of Nazis generations ago.
You know this, yet refuse to acknowledge it.
And to take a Canadian guy to make your point about US patriotism...?
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 14:33:48 GMT -5
Tell Vlad that I will have more flexibility after the election Before Russia: Annexed Crimea Shot down passenger plane Meddled in our election and elections in Europe Attempted murder of people in U.K. with nerve agent Context matters to some, others not so much. All of this happened under Obamas watch and you complain about Trump. |
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 14:35:24 GMT -5
Sorry, but ‘election meddling’ isn’t even in the top 10 most important issues we have with Russia It's all the press cares about, because they still fantasize that it can somehow lead to the indictment (never) or impeachment (pretty close to never) of Donald Trump. Never has the U.S. news media been more gobsmacked by an event than they were by Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, and they still haven’t gotten over it or accepted that the American public declined to follow their instructions. If the Russians “meddled” in the election, then maybe Trump didn’t really win. And if Trump colluded with them, then there’s cause to get rid of him! So because they’re obsessed with it this topic, they are going to be absolutely outraged if Trump is not. Since this is all they want to ask Putin about, it had damn well better be the only thing Trump wants to talk to Putin about. He’d better wag his finger at Putin and tell him, bad! Don’t do that again! And if Trump doesn’t do this, then he’s going to be roundly denounced as having disgraced the office of the presidency and the entire country, which of course is exactly what’s happening: Anderson Cooper and those of his ilk can rage all they want, but here’s why Trump is never going to give them what they want: Trump understands that the one Russia topic that interests them is nowhere near the most important issue with which we need a reckoning with Russia. Russia is assisting Iran and probably North Korea in their development of nuclear weapons. Russia is an obstacle to the establishment of needed missile defenses in Eastern Europe. Russia is trying to dominate international energy markets in order to expand its geopolitical influence at the expense of the United States. Russia is propping up Bashar Assad’s murderous regime in Syria. Russia runs interference for the tormenters of Israel at the United Nations. Russia is floating low-interest loans to help prop up the socialist regime in Venezuela. Russia routinely harasses and sometimes jails political opponents of Vladimir Putin. Russia is still occupying the Crimean Peninsula in blatant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Russia controls about 20 percent of all the uranium in the United States, but we can thank Hillary Clinton for that. The fact of the matter is that we have far more serious issues with Russia than the hacking of John Podesta’s e-mail, so that everyone would know what Hillary’s campaign chair thinks of Christians. If we were really serious about this whole meddling business, we would have done a lot more than indict 12 Russians we never expect to see in a courtroom. The election meddling is the media’s obsession. There’s no reason Trump needs to let it be his. And if he takes the media’s cue and lambastes Putin on that stage, then he’s letting them set the agenda for his dealings with Putin. If you’re outraged that the Russians tried to meddle in our election, too bad. They’ve been meddling in American affairs for as long as the two countries have existed, and every U.S. president has known it. Whatever our president wants to say to their president about it, he doesn’t have to say it on the media’s cue in a public setting. And if he really wants to talk to the Russians about important issues between us, there’s a long list he should be dealing with before he gets to election meddling. canadafreepress.com/article/sorry-but-election-meddling-isnt-even-in-the-top-10-most-important-issues-wWhat a load of crap. Trump wants to appease Putin on the missile systems, he and his cronies changed the republican platform to reflect that and the NATO trashing he did last week. Trump wants to give putin Syria and even publicly stated that he wanted to pull US troops out. Trump wants to cede Crimea to Russia because they are russian speakers, his words. Lift sanctions on Russians placed due to Crimea being annexed and invading Ukraine and Georgia. Russian company does not control any uranium in US, lie debunked when it first came out. Almost everything in your comment is either unprovable, opinion, or straight up false. |
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Post by doddeb on Jul 17, 2018 14:36:22 GMT -5
Coulda, woulda, shoulda: anyway you slice it, that "clarification" was BS.
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 17, 2018 14:38:26 GMT -5
Before Russia: Annexed Crimea Shot down passenger plane Meddled in our election and elections in Europe Attempted murder of people in U.K. with nerve agent Context matters to some, others not so much. All of this happened under Obamas watch and you complain about Trump. Yeah, that is why they were hit with the sanctions that trump wants to rescind. Also the poisoning’s happened on trump’s watch. |
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Post by hey on Jul 17, 2018 14:38:27 GMT -5
Im a cult member because I don't believe exactly what you want me to? Oh, the irony. Hey, This has nothing to do with political parties. This has everything to do with being a traitor to your country. If that's not clear enough; what does being a Republican have to do with siding with Russia over the USA? I never mentioned anything about political parties or siding with Russia. Who is a traitor and what did they do for you to call them that?(Please us verifiable facts when answering this question.) |
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