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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 10:53:23 GMT -5
Outsider says this [ i think] in a fit of rage; Terrorism of this nature and hates crimes are exactly the same things; Acts of violence performed to send a political message in support of bigotry and in opposition towards the liberal goal of an accepting , open society. Were these attacks a political message in support of bigotry; The Ft. Hood shooter Nidal Hasan that killed 13 marines. The San Bernardino attack that killed 15. Richard Reid the shoe bomber. The Boston Bombers brothers And of course 911 that killed 3000 americans with only using boxcutters and knowing how to fly a plane and btw not a SHOT fired from a gun. No it wasn't bigotry, it was '' radicalized and indoctrinate '' from the religion of peace which is Islam from all of the above names. Let me know when you've removed the log in your eye. BTW, the link requires honesty and reading ability. None of which you display. The shoe bomber didn't kill one single person. You can add him to the long list of morons (thankfully) that are unable to complete their act of terror. Like the 20 year old from Indiana that was going to shoot up the gay pride in LA (the other day). Most of the time we stop them before it happens, but the easy access to guns makes it so much harder in USA compared to other nations. |
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Post by tero on Jun 13, 2016 10:54:05 GMT -5
And so is Obama and his ''drone strikes '' this is Obama; look at me look at me i killed one person with a drone strike.
Yes, killing innocent civilians in drone strikes was the best recruitment tool IS had until a certain bungling, orange buffoon came along. See see i'm tough on fighting terrorism. So who's a '' recruitment tool '' as well my friend with his head in the sand.
How is my head in the sand? see my comment that you quoted; The Islamic State and those who carry out acts of violence in their name are enemies of the western world and freedom.I think Steve was right yesterday with the ''stupid liberals'' comment.No, in my experience Steve is never right. He thinks magical Sumerian tablets foretell the future. And no he shouldn't get banned.
I agree. If you are referring to my comment "Delete your account", that is an internet meme, google what it means before you comment please. No, in my experience Steve is never right and you always are right along with everybody else right Tero? You sound like Trump now Tero. yes very telling again i might add. I'm sure Steve has been right about something at some point in time. I have never claimed to be always right. Is any of that "telling"? I think it's telling that you use a massacre of innocent people to promote your backward political ideology. Very, very telling... |
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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 10:54:43 GMT -5
Stick with present day history because what happened long time ago doesn't support whats happening now to most americans in the United States of America. The people of America are under attack by the enemy and want answers and not a f- ing history lesson about the crusaders. Thank you very much. Can't have it both ways, Wern. It's America's foreign policy today (or more likely the past, since the 2nd world war) that are breeding the Terrorists - well, the propaganda that they use to recruit anyway. Which is what Trump is contributing to. You seem so fixated on calling them all terrorists, All Muslims. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to ask why? Why they do this? Some are straight up deranged. This guy appears to be one. Some are just power mad. Some are just mean people. But some are reacting to what has been done to them. Why is it, i don't think you'll be able to contemplate that? At any rate, you can't have it both ways; you either have to consider it all, or you don't consider anything - but you can't point to historical data to support your position, then dismiss it out of hand when it doesn't. That's intellectually dishonest. Kevin can always have it both ways. Most 'wingers argue out of both sides of the mouth. Probably because it's not actually his argument but the claptrap from punditry and rightwing sites filling Kevin with angst, anguish, fear and rage. It's not like Kevin is known for his cerebral prowess. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 10:54:50 GMT -5
The FBI let him go because there was no evidence he was a terrorist. If you think that American citizens should be detained through suspicion only with no evidence then you are indeed a supporter of third world dictators. Than we just might have to rethink and maybe the terrorists know those laws and they worked around or know you won't be brought in for questioning and bingo we have 50 people slaughtered. THANK YOU Federal Government for those lovely FBI watch list that are not worth the paper their written on. Maybe Randall? Read the articles before you argue, Wern. It was the GOP, lock step, who decided people on the watch list could buy assault rifles. So don't say thank you federal gov't, because the minority were trying to do the right thing (the dems). The gop stopped them. Don't take my word for it. Actually read the vote. |
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Post by tero on Jun 13, 2016 10:55:40 GMT -5
There's something fun about invoking Godwin's Law and someone completely missing it. Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Just google "Godwin's Law" for fuck's sake! Do you know how to use Google? I can teach you if you'd like. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 10:56:16 GMT -5
Tweet from Hillary; ''Lets be clear; Islam is not our adversary, muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatever to do with terrorism''. LBGT Phoenix tweet back; We want you to know, after this horrific attack, that wa are officially endorsing Trump. Enough is enough. www. gateway pundit. com side note- If she [ as in Hillary] can't even classify e- mails correctly on a basic server, HOW in gods name is she going to keep Americans safe from what we are facing as a nation at this time? 12 tweets and 19 followers Seems like a huge group Joined June 2016 You can have him/her. 16 year old. Kevin, before you make a point - ALWAYS research Thanks for doing the dirty work, Hippo. That research explains a lot about his post. Very telling, to quote. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 10:57:45 GMT -5
I'm not actually typing anything in a rage, Kev. I'm just sad that people think it's ok to kill one another. As for your assertion, please show me where i said hate crimes and terrorism are the same? I wasn't aware that i thought that, much less typed it. As for the rest of your post, you're diverting again. I haven't seen you say once, that the guns (in any of these cases) a) shouldn't have been readily available. B) available to people on the watch list. C) people with mental issues YOu're just hating. And it's not the same thing I think the bill in the Senate about people on the watch list, the Democrats added all kind of things to kill the bill and they did it on purpose you can bet. Did you actually read it? Or are you guessing? |
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Post by tittletag on Jun 13, 2016 10:57:45 GMT -5
Tweet from Hillary; ''Lets be clear; Islam is not our adversary, muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatever to do with terrorism''. LBGT Phoenix tweet back; We want you to know, after this horrific attack, that wa are officially endorsing Trump. Enough is enough. www. gateway pundit. com side note- If she [ as in Hillary] can't even classify e- mails correctly on a basic server, HOW in gods name is she going to keep Americans safe from what we are facing as a nation at this time? Link please. Gateway pundit just brings you to a list of topics. I would like to read this tweet about how gay people are stating they're voting against their own self-interests. Of course, so do you, but that is another story. I'd still like to read the article please. Yes, like is LBGT Phoenix and organization or a single tweeter? If it's an org how many people does it represent. Is LBGT Phoenix an actual LBGT person or a sock puppet? Seems important. |
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Post by roknsteve on Jun 13, 2016 10:58:40 GMT -5
Tweet from Hillary; ''Lets be clear; Islam is not our adversary, muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatever to do with terrorism''. LBGT Phoenix tweet back; We want you to know, after this horrific attack, that wa are officially endorsing Trump. Enough is enough. www. gateway pundit. com side note- If she [ as in Hillary] can't even classify e- mails correctly on a basic server, HOW in gods name is she going to keep Americans safe from what we are facing as a nation at this time? Is it possible for you to NOT post something stupid EVER?! Foggy said "stupid", you better ban him (kidding). |
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Post by newhivemaster on Jun 13, 2016 10:58:46 GMT -5
Stick with present day history because what happened long time ago doesn't support whats happening now to most americans in the United States of America. The people of America are under attack by the enemy and want answers and not a f- ing history lesson about the crusaders. Thank you very much. Can't have it both ways, Wern. It's America's foreign policy today (or more likely the past, since the 2nd world war) that are breeding the Terrorists - well, the propaganda that they use to recruit anyway. Which is what Trump is contributing to. You seem so fixated on calling them all terrorists, All Muslims. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to ask why? Why they do this? Some are straight up deranged. This guy appears to be one. Some are just power mad. Some are just mean people. But some are reacting to what has been done to them. Why is it, i don't think you'll be able to contemplate that? At any rate, you can't have it both ways; you either have to consider it all, or you don't consider anything - but you can't point to historical data to support your position, then dismiss it out of hand when it doesn't. That's intellectually dishonest Wern. |
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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 10:59:08 GMT -5
WATCH: Morning Joe panel rips Donald Trump for “taking a victory lap over 50 bodies” after Orlando massacre "Everything about his reaction was very small and unhelpful," The New York Times' Frank Bruni argued The panelists on MSNBC’s Morning Joe were no happier than their colleagues at TODAY about Donald Trump’s self-congratulatory response to the massacre at Orlando’s Pulse nightclub over the weekend. Trump insisted to TODAY’s Savannah Guthrie that he was merely calling attention to the congratulations he had received after the terror attack for his perspicuity in having predicted it when he tweeted the following: www.salon.com/2016/06/13/watch_morning_joe_panel_rips_donald_trump_for_taking_a_victory_lap_over_50_bodies_after_orlando_massacre/You know whats amazing in all of this and that is you think Trump and who knows who else are the enemies more than the real enemy itself. And that to me and millions of american is the most dangerous part of this all mess. The folks you talk about haven't killed anybody, but the terrorists are. Now this is the second time the FBI has had terrorists on their radar screen and decided to let them go for some reason or another. Could it be the policy of this administration so not to look like being against the religion of Islam or not looking xenophobia and while that's going on people are still getting slaughter by terrorists in this country. That's okay Kevin. Lets support a candidate that will put thought crimes on the books. That's the only way to be safe. Of course who will be on that list? And what level of thought crimes do anyone have to commit in order to be thrown off a roof or shot in an alley. Come to think of it that sounds like the tyrants and radicals in Middle East. They too use thought crimes as a means to execute or imprison people. How easy you give up the fundamental legal rights we have in this nation because of your fear. Am I going to be on your list of unwanted in the ideal tyranny you want to create? Because I'm tolerant and believe that we punish people for their crimes and not their thoughts? |
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Post by LA_Randy on Jun 13, 2016 11:00:15 GMT -5
There's something fun about invoking Godwin's Law and someone completely missing it. Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Are you actually saying that Americans want a fascist state? |
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Post by oreo062200 on Jun 13, 2016 11:02:38 GMT -5
Stick with present day history because what happened long time ago doesn't support whats happening now to most americans in the United States of America. The people of America are under attack by the enemy and want answers and not a f- ing history lesson about the crusaders. Thank you very much. Can't have it both ways, Wern. It's America's foreign policy today (or more likely the past, since the 2nd world war) that are breeding the Terrorists - well, the propaganda that they use to recruit anyway. Which is what Trump is contributing to. You seem so fixated on calling them all terrorists, All Muslims. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to ask why? Why they do this? Some are straight up deranged. This guy appears to be one. Some are just power mad. Some are just mean people. But some are reacting to what has been done to them. Why is it, i don't think you'll be able to contemplate that? At any rate, you can't have it both ways; you either have to consider it all, or you don't consider anything - but you can't point to historical data to support your position, then dismiss it out of hand when it doesn't. That's intellectually dishonest. And all i hear you say ITS THAT DAMN GUN. And you don't consider much else either Outsider, but now you have a new boogeyman and its Trump and over there is Hillary that has less of a clue than Trump. Just tell them we mean you no harm [ terrorists ] that is and close every military base in the world and bring the american soldiers home and that will tell them all [ terrorists] that we give up, so can you give up as well. |
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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 11:02:39 GMT -5
I'm not actually typing anything in a rage, Kev. I'm just sad that people think it's ok to kill one another. As for your assertion, please show me where i said hate crimes and terrorism are the same? I wasn't aware that i thought that, much less typed it. As for the rest of your post, you're diverting again. I haven't seen you say once, that the guns (in any of these cases) a) shouldn't have been readily available. B) available to people on the watch list. C) people with mental issues YOu're just hating. And it's not the same thing I think the bill in the Senate about people on the watch list, the Democrats added all kind of things to kill the bill and they did it on purpose you can bet. What 'all kind of things' did they add? Seems you're simply making up a bunch of crap to avoid the fact that GOP refused to pass it. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 11:02:55 GMT -5
Is it possible for you to NOT post something stupid EVER?! Foggy said "stupid", you better ban him (kidding). Adjectives and nouns, nouns and pronounds  |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 11:04:18 GMT -5
Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Are you actually saying that Americans want a fascist state? Well, Wern does, anyway. Not realizing it's only a matter of time before he too is targeted. No one ever thinks it'll happen to them.. Always someone else. |
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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 11:04:42 GMT -5
Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Just google "Godwin's Law" for fuck's sake! Do you know how to use Google? I can teach you if you'd like. An ignorant person makes an even greater ignorant point when they don't know wtf they're talking about. Like confusing the crusades and the Christians in the third Reich. |
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Post by mrobvious on Jun 13, 2016 11:06:50 GMT -5
Can't have it both ways, Wern. It's America's foreign policy today (or more likely the past, since the 2nd world war) that are breeding the Terrorists - well, the propaganda that they use to recruit anyway. Which is what Trump is contributing to. You seem so fixated on calling them all terrorists, All Muslims. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to ask why? Why they do this? Some are straight up deranged. This guy appears to be one. Some are just power mad. Some are just mean people. But some are reacting to what has been done to them. Why is it, i don't think you'll be able to contemplate that? At any rate, you can't have it both ways; you either have to consider it all, or you don't consider anything - but you can't point to historical data to support your position, then dismiss it out of hand when it doesn't. That's intellectually dishonest. And all i hear you say ITS THAT DAMN GUN. And you don't consider much else either Outsider, but now you have a new boogeyman and its Trump and over there is Hillary that has less of a clue than Trump. Just tell them we mean you no harm [ terrorists ] that is and close every military base in the world and bring the american soldiers home and that will tell them all [ terrorists] that we give up, so can you give up as well. The shooter got his gun a few days before the deed. Had the law been passed he wouldn't be able too. End of story. Maybe he'd get a gun illegally. Possible. But it would take longer and require contacts. However both the shooters in CA and this guy didn't have too. Most don't. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 11:07:01 GMT -5
Can't have it both ways, Wern. It's America's foreign policy today (or more likely the past, since the 2nd world war) that are breeding the Terrorists - well, the propaganda that they use to recruit anyway. Which is what Trump is contributing to. You seem so fixated on calling them all terrorists, All Muslims. Have you ever, once in your life, stopped to ask why? Why they do this? Some are straight up deranged. This guy appears to be one. Some are just power mad. Some are just mean people. But some are reacting to what has been done to them. Why is it, i don't think you'll be able to contemplate that? At any rate, you can't have it both ways; you either have to consider it all, or you don't consider anything - but you can't point to historical data to support your position, then dismiss it out of hand when it doesn't. That's intellectually dishonest. And all i hear you say ITS THAT DAMN GUN. And you don't consider much else either Outsider, but now you have a new boogeyman and its Trump and over there is Hillary that has less of a clue than Trump. Just tell them we mean you no harm [ terrorists ] that is and close every military base in the world and bring the american soldiers home and that will tell them all [ terrorists] that we give up, so can you give up as well. 1) I haven't blamed Trump; just said he's a buffoon. 2) If the guy didn't have access to an assault rifle, the cop probably would have been enough to stop him (total speculation on my part) 3) There is no reason on earth to have access to a weapon like that - unless you have a little dick. 4) I don't think you actually understand isolationists. I think you should educate yourself a bit more about it before you post about it. 5) You know you're not actually making sense, right? You talk about posting with rage - re-read what you wrote. |
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Post by roknsteve on Jun 13, 2016 11:13:08 GMT -5
United States of America - Innocent Victim???
The US starts more wars and sells more weapons than any other country in the world. And when the violence comes home all certain people
can say is, "Ban Automatic Weapons!" How about getting out of the War and Death business? And now it's time for a word from our
sponsor. "Blame the messenger!"
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Post by oreo062200 on Jun 13, 2016 11:14:48 GMT -5
Than we just might have to rethink and maybe the terrorists know those laws and they worked around or know you won't be brought in for questioning and bingo we have 50 people slaughtered. THANK YOU Federal Government for those lovely FBI watch list that are not worth the paper their written on. Maybe Randall? He was questioned on two different occasions. Case was closed due to lack of evidence. Hindsight always 20/20. So the guy out fooled the interviewers of the FBI terrorism unit just lovely. Case closed on lack of not connecting the dots by the FBI. Boy i feel much safer now?? |
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Post by LA_Randy on Jun 13, 2016 11:17:47 GMT -5
After reading oreo's comments I now feel Jim Hoft, gateway pundit, has been unfairly maligned.
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Post by foggyisback on Jun 13, 2016 11:19:36 GMT -5
Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Are you actually saying that Americans want a fascist state? I believe he is, yes. |
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Post by tero on Jun 13, 2016 11:20:06 GMT -5
United States of America - Innocent Victim??? The US starts more wars and sells more weapons than any other country in the world. And when the violence comes home all certain people can say is, "Ban Automatic Weapons!" How about getting out of the War and Death business? And now it's time for a word from our sponsor. "Blame the messenger!" Yes, get out of the War and Death business and adopt common sense gun laws. Do both. |
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Post by tero on Jun 13, 2016 11:21:41 GMT -5
Head down to Fla FL and teach Godwin's law to them instead and see what they tell you. And then fly in to San Bernardino and teach them as well. And have the plane fueled up after Hillary gets in there to go tell more people about Godwin's Law around the country. Are you actually saying that Americans want a fascist state? Based on the popularity of Trump I'd say that many Americans want a fascist state. |
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Post by oreo062200 on Jun 13, 2016 11:22:15 GMT -5
And all i hear you say ITS THAT DAMN GUN. And you don't consider much else either Outsider, but now you have a new boogeyman and its Trump and over there is Hillary that has less of a clue than Trump. Just tell them we mean you no harm [ terrorists ] that is and close every military base in the world and bring the american soldiers home and that will tell them all [ terrorists] that we give up, so can you give up as well. 1) I haven't blamed Trump; just said he's a buffoon. 2) If the guy didn't have access to an assault rifle, the cop probably would have been enough to stop him (total speculation on my part) 3) There is no reason on earth to have access to a weapon like that - unless you have a little dick. 4) I don't think you actually understand isolationists. I think you should educate yourself a bit more about it before you post about it. 5) You know you're not actually making sense, right? You talk about posting with rage - re-read what you wrote. #6] Nothing about what Hillary would do? That's right, who cares what she thinks. Conceal and carry laws, [ just a thought on my part] |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 11:26:01 GMT -5
1) I haven't blamed Trump; just said he's a buffoon. 2) If the guy didn't have access to an assault rifle, the cop probably would have been enough to stop him (total speculation on my part) 3) There is no reason on earth to have access to a weapon like that - unless you have a little dick. 4) I don't think you actually understand isolationists. I think you should educate yourself a bit more about it before you post about it. 5) You know you're not actually making sense, right? You talk about posting with rage - re-read what you wrote. #6] Nothing about what Hillary would do? That's right, who cares what she thinks. Conceal and carry laws, [ just a thought on my part] Because having a gun helped the cop who got shot, right? And what exactly does this have to do with any of the above? you're attempting to a) change the subject, and b) move the goalposts. But it's a futile effort. Because we'll keep pointing out that you're trying to do that. |
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Post by tero on Jun 13, 2016 11:26:16 GMT -5
Stacey Dash: Gay club needed ‘good guys’ with Glocks to ‘take out’ assault rifle
www.rawstory.com/2016/06/stacey-dash-gay-club-needed-good-guys-with-glocks-to-take-out-assault-rifle/Actress Stacey Dash on Monday suggested that the victims of the terrorist attack at a gay nightclub in Orlando should have been armed with Glock handguns so that they could “take out” the shooter, who was firing an assault-style rifle.
Nothing says "fun night out" more than a fucking glock strapped to your waist. Instead of arming everyone, maybe sensible gun laws would be a better idea, you dimwitted Auntie Tom.
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Post by tittletag on Jun 13, 2016 11:27:29 GMT -5
United States of America - Innocent Victim??? The US starts more wars and sells more weapons than any other country in the world. And when the violence comes home all certain people can say is, "Ban Automatic Weapons!" How about getting out of the War and Death business? And now it's time for a word from our sponsor. "Blame the messenger!" Yes, get out of the War and Death business and adopt common sense gun laws. Do both. Two ideas in you head at the same time. It must get crowded in there. |
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Post by Outsider on Jun 13, 2016 11:28:58 GMT -5
United States of America - Innocent Victim??? The US starts more wars and sells more weapons than any other country in the world. And when the violence comes home all certain people can say is, "Ban Automatic Weapons!" How about getting out of the War and Death business? And now it's time for a word from our sponsor. "Blame the messenger!" Yes, get out of the War and Death business and adopt common sense gun laws. Do both. Agreed; the two aren't mutually exclusive. But you would be going against a very well funded, powerful lobby right now. Which is why a) Iraq happened in the first place, and b) why no legislation passed after 24 children in elementary school were murdered with an assault rifle. But you'll always have apologists for the gun lobby, right Wern? |
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