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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:10:03 GMT -5
Trump is simply a liar. He lies so often and so effortless that everything he says should be checked and re-checked. But the one entity that should are just in awe over small things like using teleprompters or for a few minutes saying 'nice' things. "It's not lies - it's just, bullshit" - Trump. (Via Elwood Blues/Dan Ackroyd ) Well, I've been given a choice at work, and a couple of weeks to make it: Stay as I am atm. at work, and they hire someone else to cover the mornings, or work full time (40 hrs) instead, with a pay rise... (I'm working 15/16 hrs a week atm, (officially ), getting about £150 net. (£12/hr). (Bearing in mind that this is London, though, so it needs to be higher than what I made in Leicester, regardless (£6.50/hr back then, though £12/hr in London is probably ~£8/hr back there.) This would push me up to about £500 a week, net. (£15/hr, £31k/yr.) But I'm not really sure I really want to work full time, though Roslyn said I can do it for, say, a few months, or until Christmas/New Year, and then go back to being part-time if I want... I don't really need the money, but... Decisions, decisions... Though, according to Roslyn, she feels everyone will be getting a pay rise next year anyway, and possibly bonuses, since the company is really good shape atm, and planning on raising some cash to buy a couple more properties, with the location and type depending on the state of the market once they've done so. Do it; if the opportunity exist to go back to part time later it's good to make money for the rainy day fund (or a bigger and better computer right?).
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 10:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:11:32 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... How common sense is it to discard actual data and science for the stubborn belief in anecdotes? I believe common sense AND observing data goes hand in hand.
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:13:56 GMT -5
Don't look for a swarm of tribal GOPers to jump on that train. Aiding and abetting an enemy is just fine if it means winning political power. Most of the GOPers have forgotten than their job is to legislate on behalf of people, not to personally gratify themselves.
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 10:20:00 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... How common sense is it to discard actual data and science for the stubborn belief in anecdotes? I believe common sense AND observing data goes hand in hand. Common sense means not to be afraid to have your belief system tested every now and then. And not to blast those who don't share yours.
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:22:42 GMT -5
www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48263/trump-mexico-media/I so agree. This was a disaster of so called anticipated speeches. Media get apoplectic when Hillary accuse (and rightly so) Trump for being aligned with racists and him giving bigoted speeches. This speech was no different. But yet Media can't give it enough air time as some kind of serious policy speech. Oh and that hailed trip of his. Hillary is a nag who blame Trump for his racist ties, Boooo. Trump shitting his pants for 98 minutes while stating 'believe me' and Media is like....'ANTICIPATED!' Fking BS.
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Post by Outsider on Sept 1, 2016 10:23:52 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... Don't eat yellow snow. Don't piss into the wind. And definitely don't lick anything metal in winter!
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Post by newhivemaster on Sept 1, 2016 10:24:43 GMT -5
Good morning, Hive!!!
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Post by newhivemaster on Sept 1, 2016 10:26:08 GMT -5
I almost spit out my coffee near the end when he actually used the words "both sides...". Yeah, both sides are NOT colluding with the Russian government.
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:26:44 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... Don't eat yellow snow. Don't piss into the wind. And definitely don't lick anything metal in winter! Don't let a dog lick your face after it eat randoms dogs poo outside. Common sense.
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:28:46 GMT -5
I almost spit out my coffee near the end when he actually used the words "both sides...". Yeah, both sides are NOT colluding with the Russian government. The narrative; GOP launches investigations into investigations about stuff GOP themselves says are nothingburgers. Democrats investigate ties with countries that are actively trying to mess with our elections. Not same thing.
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 10:32:08 GMT -5
I almost spit out my coffee near the end when he actually used the words "both sides...". Yeah, both sides are NOT colluding with the Russian government. It’s another example of how both sides in this election cycle are pushing conspiracy theories that they cannot prove.
Rogin's being a fudgehead.
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 10:37:46 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Sept 1, 2016 11:01:01 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/us/brock-turner-release/index.htmlOur criminal justice system. If you're a minority you are practically screwed. If you're a white privileged male there are a thousands apologists for your actions including from the bench. If you're a white woman you're really not a victim. You clearly did something to entice the young nice man He served 3 months and is back in Ohio. His life goes on. She will have to relieve that moment every time she tries to trust another man.
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Post by tittletag on Sept 1, 2016 12:13:11 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... Don't eat yellow snow. Don't piss into the wind. And definitely don't lick anything metal in winter! Good advice! Just thought I'd put this out there: Common sense is awesome for things that are common. Somethings like the sciences aren't common. In fact they are complex and arcane and sometimes counter intuitive. Sometimes they confirm our intuition and other times it confounds us. I am the opposite of a scientist. I do art and music and live with intuition and common sense BUT I know what I don't know. I value people that dedicate their lives to becoming experts in fields over people that trust their gut over more knowledgable people. That being said, it's not hard to see logical fallacies from deniers. It's not that I blindly trust science; it's that the burden of proof has to be unassailable and not anecdotal.
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:47:26 GMT -5
They just grilled Kaine on CBS about Hillary not having a press conference in 273 days. Kaine noted that she does talk to press (local) everywhere she goes. The beltway media is apoplectic that they have been deemed irrelevant and just can't understand it is their own damn fault. They have become a bunch of night time snipe hunters wandering around in the dark looking for the nonexistent animal. Here is A Thing. The only people who care about Hillary not giving press conferences are the Beltway media (and the trolls on the right who are just spouting talking points). Press conferences are the cotton candy of journalism. They're light and look good, but they're generally just empty, airy confections. And I say this as someone who has covered press conferences. They're scrums, where media outlets get a couple of questions, which they're prepared in advance, and are designed to sound smart but that everyone involved knows will not generate lengthy, detailed answers. Because there's no time for depth and substance in a press conference. Gotta answer this question and move on to the next, because everybody in that room wants their precious question answered. They are, however, chances for Our National Media™ to be shown "working" and Holding the Powerful Accountable™ to am American public that has, at best, a shallow understanding of and fleeting interest in the subject of the presser. But ONM gets to yell at the person holding the presser, so yay. You know what's infinitely better than a press conference? What's more enlightening? What offers more actual context, depth and opportunity for discussion? Interviews. Actual interviews, one-on-one, with people who know how to interview. And Hillary has done that. Quite a bit. Also, following a candidate on the campaign trail, day in and day out, watching, listening, researching, reporting. You know, doing the actual job of journalism. But that's not glamorous. You don't get your This is My Professional Journalist Face on everybody else's newscast. You don't get to stand up, pen in hand, and ask The Pressing Question, which has probably already been asked a thousand times and answered the exact same way, every. single. time. Press conferences are, as a whole, useless. Now, if something sudden, unexpected and actually important happens (an attack, a disaster, some new shit fight between the White House and the Insane Asylum Currently Masquerading as the House of Representatives), then a press conference can be a quick and easy way to get information out to a lot of people at once. But if you really pay attention, you'll notice that you never, ever get all the information you want or need at a presser. Because they are designed to be quick and dirty. The real information comes out after the presser, after the digging, after the interviews. After the, say it with me, RE-POR-TING. The thing ONM has forgotten how to do. It's a hollow relic of bygone days. Once upon a time, in a world long, long ago, pressers were the only way for political figures to get the word out. Pressers were the politico's pipeline to the people. You want your words, your ideas, your policies disseminated to the people? Call in the radio news guys and the (handful) of national reporters, let them ask their questions and write up (or broadcast) their stories, and, voilá, you have Reached the People. That was back when journalism was a shit job that paid peanuts but that people went into because they actually believed the public had a right to know. Then the people behind the microphones and the bylines became stars. And TV happened. And, in the '70s, a newspaper brought down a president. Oh, those were the halcyon days! TV made the reporters stars who started demanding big salaries, and who decided it was their job to shout at the president (Sam Donaldson, Mike Wallace). Errbody got on their Woodward and Bernstein (and Woodward has turned out to be an utterly useless tool who has one mark of glory by his name and has been coasting, downhill, ever since). But, still, they were the only conduits. If POTUS had something to say, or a candidate running for office wanted to address The American People, they had to go through the presser gauntlet. Politicos needed the big papers, the network TV news, even, yes, radio (let us have a moment of silence for those bygone days when radio did actual news and not hate-crusted screamfests).. The reporters were still stars. Everybody knew who Donaldson, Wallace, Peter Jennings, David Brinkley, Helen Thomas, et al. were. They were household names. They were Important People. Then somebody had the bright idea to put news on the electric TeeVee 24 hours a day. And it's been a shit show ever since. Because you have to fill those hours with something, right? Even if it's just mindless drivel. But then technology took a huge leap forward. We got the internet, we got computers we could all use, we got phones that do everything. And, suddenly, we didn't need to get our information filtered through the Very Important People. Political leaders and candidates could speak to us directly. We could look up their actions, policies and proposals for ourselves, we could see what was going on in the rest of the world, and we could call bullshit for ourselves. At the same time, Our National Media™ got lazy. They're all still living in the Clinton Era of the '90s, when the Republicans launched witch hunt after witch hunt, and folks in the Beltway were treated to such exotic locales as Hope and Mena, Arkansas. They could "report" on every rumor, scandal, and bit of salacious innuendo with all the glee of the old Hollywood Reporter and the depth of my high school paper ("Are those new cheerleader outfits really appropriate?"). Who cared whether the Clinton healthcare plan would actually work? We've got those great TV ads with Harry and Louise (remember them, kids?) telling us we're all going to die of horrible diseases because socialized medicine!!!!111! (The Soviet Union had socialism, and look how that turned out!) Actual issues, actual policies, no longer mattered. Those were things for those narrowly-focused "niche" magazines and trade papers to cover. The American People just wanted to know why in the hell didn't Hillary divorce Bill. Pressers are a dog and pony show. They don't accomplish anything except give ONM a chance to show their Very Serious Faces on TV. Pressers aren't where the actual work of journalism gets done. (They're great for playing games on your phone, though, because, here's a little bit of insider info – nobody is actually taking notes on those notepads with those pens reporters like to wave around. Everybody's just recording the damned thing on their phones or iPads or digital voice recorders. Pens and paper are for doodling. Or shopping lists.) The only reason our media "stars" are so pissed at Hillary Clinton for not having pressers is because they want to shout questions at her that she's already answered ten bazillion times so that they can go back to their offices, get back to Words with Friends, and tweet "Clinton refused to address new questions about emails." Every day that she refuses to indulge in this nonsense, I respect her just a little bit more.
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:50:25 GMT -5
Late-night talk show hosts > DNN? Yes. Who are you more likely to believe, any mainstream media personality - or Stewart? And look what happened the last time Stewart himself went on CNN. Do you remember the clip? He was right about what the media was doing - and this was 12 years ago! I remember that. The day Jon took Crossfire out back and committed a mercy killing.
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:52:41 GMT -5
'Looks like my area will get seriously hit by Hermine late tonight through tomorrow. I expect lots of power outages, downed trees and flooding. My neighbor had their mighty oak completely removed the other day so we won't have to worry about any damage from that one. I will trim back mine today. Ugh, stay safe! (Also, what is up with "Hermine"? What's wrong with "Hermione"? You know, the way the name is actually spelled?)
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:54:21 GMT -5
I almost spit out my coffee near the end when he actually used the words "both sides...". Yeah, both sides are NOT colluding with the Russian government. It's the NAAAAAaaaaaaarrative! Thou shalt not fuck with The Narrative!
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:55:31 GMT -5
Don't look for a swarm of tribal GOPers to jump on that train. Aiding and abetting an enemy is just fine if it means winning political power. Most of the GOPers have forgotten than their job is to legislate on behalf of people, not to personally gratify themselves. Party first.
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 12:57:52 GMT -5
Common Sense Has Never Been Very Common... A -Use a condom unless you're married. 2 -Don't run house lights day and night. C -Combine car trips to save fuel and pollute less. I learned about common sense from my grandfather, Larry Dunn, from an early age. And I did many bone headed, stupid things until I learned to think first. I also taught it to my 2 sons. I also told them we must learn from our mistakes. Feel free to add any other common sense ideas... Don't eat yellow snow. Don't piss into the wind. And definitely don't lick anything metal in winter! Don't tug on Superman's cape. And don't mess around with Jim.
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Post by suen on Sept 1, 2016 13:00:15 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/us/brock-turner-release/index.htmlOur criminal justice system. If you're a minority you are practically screwed. If you're a white privileged male there are a thousands apologists for your actions including from the bench. If you're a white woman you're really not a victim. You clearly did something to entice the young nice man He served 3 months and is back in Ohio. His life goes on. She will have to relieve that moment every time she tries to trust another man. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 1, 2016 13:07:45 GMT -5
They just grilled Kaine on CBS about Hillary not having a press conference in 273 days. Kaine noted that she does talk to press (local) everywhere she goes. The beltway media is apoplectic that they have been deemed irrelevant and just can't understand it is their own damn fault. They have become a bunch of night time snipe hunters wandering around in the dark looking for the nonexistent animal. Here is A Thing. The only people who care about Hillary not giving press conferences are the Beltway media (and the trolls on the right who are just spouting talking points). Press conferences are the cotton candy of journalism. They're light and look good, but they're generally just empty, airy confections. And I say this as someone who has covered press conferences. They're scrums, where media outlets get a couple of questions, which they're prepared in advance, and are designed to sound smart but that everyone involved knows will not generate lengthy, detailed answers. Because there's no time for depth and substance in a press conference. Gotta answer this question and move on to the next, because everybody in that room wants their precious question answered. They are, however, chances for Our National Media™ to be shown "working" and Holding the Powerful Accountable™ to am American public that has, at best, a shallow understanding of and fleeting interest in the subject of the presser. But ONM gets to yell at the person holding the presser, so yay. You know what's infinitely better than a press conference? What's more enlightening? What offers more actual context, depth and opportunity for discussion? Interviews. Actual interviews, one-on-one, with people who know how to interview. And Hillary has done that. Quite a bit. Also, following a candidate on the campaign trail, day in and day out, watching, listening, researching, reporting. You know, doing the actual job of journalism. But that's not glamorous. You don't get your This is My Professional Journalist Face on everybody else's newscast. You don't get to stand up, pen in hand, and ask The Pressing Question, which has probably already been asked a thousand times and answered the exact same way, every. single. time. Press conferences are, as a whole, useless. Now, if something sudden, unexpected and actually important happens (an attack, a disaster, some new shit fight between the White House and the Insane Asylum Currently Masquerading as the House of Representatives), then a press conference can be a quick and easy way to get information out to a lot of people at once. But if you really pay attention, you'll notice that you never, ever get all the information you want or need at a presser. Because they are designed to be quick and dirty. The real information comes out after the presser, after the digging, after the interviews. After the, say it with me, RE-POR-TING. The thing ONM has forgotten how to do. It's a hollow relic of bygone days. Once upon a time, in a world long, long ago, pressers were the only way for political figures to get the word out. Pressers were the politico's pipeline to the people. You want your words, your ideas, your policies disseminated to the people? Call in the radio news guys and the (handful) of national reporters, let them ask their questions and write up (or broadcast) their stories, and, voilá, you have Reached the People. That was back when journalism was a shit job that paid peanuts but that people went into because they actually believed the public had a right to know. Then the people behind the microphones and the bylines became stars. And TV happened. And, in the '70s, a newspaper brought down a president. Oh, those were the halcyon days! TV made the reporters stars who started demanding big salaries, and who decided it was their job to shout at the president (Sam Donaldson, Mike Wallace). Errbody got on their Woodward and Bernstein (and Woodward has turned out to be an utterly useless tool who has one mark of glory by his name and has been coasting, downhill, ever since). But, still, they were the only conduits. If POTUS had something to say, or a candidate running for office wanted to address The American People, they had to go through the presser gauntlet. Politicos needed the big papers, the network TV news, even, yes, radio (let us have a moment of silence for those bygone days when radio did actual news and not hate-crusted screamfests).. The reporters were still stars. Everybody knew who Donaldson, Wallace, Peter Jennings, David Brinkley, Helen Thomas, et al. were. They were household names. They were Important People. Then somebody had the bright idea to put news on the electric TeeVee 24 hours a day. And it's been a shit show ever since. Because you have to fill those hours with something, right? Even if it's just mindless drivel. But then technology took a huge leap forward. We got the internet, we got computers we could all use, we got phones that do everything. And, suddenly, we didn't need to get our information filtered through the Very Important People. Political leaders and candidates could speak to us directly. We could look up their actions, policies and proposals for ourselves, we could see what was going on in the rest of the world, and we could call bullshit for ourselves. At the same time, Our National Media™ got lazy. They're all still living in the Clinton Era of the '90s, when the Republicans launched witch hunt after witch hunt, and folks in the Beltway were treated to such exotic locales as Hope and Mena, Arkansas. They could "report" on every rumor, scandal, and bit of salacious innuendo with all the glee of the old Hollywood Reporter and the depth of my high school paper ("Are those new cheerleader outfits really appropriate?"). Who cared whether the Clinton healthcare plan would actually work? We've got those great TV ads with Harry and Louise (remember them, kids?) telling us we're all going to die of horrible diseases because socialized medicine!!!!111! (The Soviet Union had socialism, and look how that turned out!) Actual issues, actual policies, no longer mattered. Those were things for those narrowly-focused "niche" magazines and trade papers to cover. The American People just wanted to know why in the hell didn't Hillary divorce Bill. Pressers are a dog and pony show. They don't accomplish anything except give ONM a chance to show their Very Serious Faces on TV. Pressers aren't where the actual work of journalism gets done. (They're great for playing games on your phone, though, because, here's a little bit of insider info – nobody is actually taking notes on those notepads with those pens reporters like to wave around. Everybody's just recording the damned thing on their phones or iPads or digital voice recorders. Pens and paper are for doodling. Or shopping lists.) The only reason our media "stars" are so pissed at Hillary Clinton for not having pressers is because they want to shout questions at her that she's already answered ten bazillion times so that they can go back to their offices, get back to Words with Friends, and tweet "Clinton refused to address new questions about emails." Every day that she refuses to indulge in this nonsense, I respect her just a little bit more. Well done Suen!
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 1, 2016 13:08:59 GMT -5
Don't eat yellow snow. Don't piss into the wind. And definitely don't lick anything metal in winter! Don't tug on Superman's cape. And don't mess around with Jim. Slim disagrees. 😀
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Post by phillippatUK on Sept 1, 2016 13:23:26 GMT -5
Well, we're watching the tennis atm, here - a stream of the US ESPN (Murray vs Granollers) I'm guessing that no-one else here is a tennis fan? EDIT: US adverts are weird EDIT2: Anyone in NY? It's getting hosed atm
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Post by LA_Randy on Sept 1, 2016 13:52:39 GMT -5
Well, we're watching the tennis atm, here - a stream of the US ESPN (Murray vs Granollers) I'm guessing that no-one else here is a tennis fan? EDIT: US adverts are weird EDIT2: Anyone in NY? It's getting hosed atm Like other sports I enjoyed playing them when I was younger, baseball, football, volleyball, badminton, tennis etc. but just not interested in watching other people play. I will go find something to do outside or in my shop and don't ask me who won the Super Bowl, I would have to google it. 😉
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 13:57:44 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 13:59:59 GMT -5
Well, we're watching the tennis atm, here - a stream of the US ESPN (Murray vs Granollers) I'm guessing that no-one else here is a tennis fan? EDIT: US adverts are weird EDIT2: Anyone in NY? It's getting hosed atm Not that big of a tennis fan but don't let that stop YOU I hear that the covered court is the only one open right now. What's wrong with our ads IYO? Too in-yo-face?
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Post by foggyisback on Sept 1, 2016 14:01:43 GMT -5
I almost spit out my coffee near the end when he actually used the words "both sides...". Yeah, both sides are NOT colluding with the Russian government. It's the NAAAAAaaaaaaarrative! Thou shalt not fuck with The Narrative! 'Cause The Narrative always wants you to do it twice in a row??
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