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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 4:28:32 GMT -5
Everything that's wrong with the Middle East, in one post:
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 4:47:35 GMT -5
🤷🏾‍♂️
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 7:15:42 GMT -5
Everything that's wrong with the Middle East, in one post: There's only one thing; people have been demonstrating against the occupation, by the millions from time to time, especially when the violence have boiled over. We're talking about a very long occupation. There has only been a recent attempt to normalize relations in the region, now largely undone by this horrific genocide. That is why soundbites about an event that has been a tragic since the original Nakba is so stupid.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 8:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 8:47:10 GMT -5
One down, one to go.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 8:48:02 GMT -5
Hey Randy, any bad storm effects? We're supposed to get it this afternoon.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 9:41:42 GMT -5
Per NBC News: Sinead O'Connor died of natural causes - coroner's report.
So, after the suicide of her son, a broken heart.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 9:45:12 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 10:11:28 GMT -5
The immunity hearing arguments are being carried live on audio 🤔
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 10:14:00 GMT -5
So Im listening to the oral arguments before the DC appeals court and what a fucking nonsensical argument. Basically, a president can assassinate a political official with immunity as long as he's not impeached for it. So as long as there's no impeachment, the president can basically do anything. Jesus Christ how fucking moronic. As long as a president then has enough political power, such as impeachment proof party power, he can do wtf he ever wants.
I've never heard such a dumb, Machiavellian argument by anyone. It is absolutely insane.
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 9, 2024 10:58:43 GMT -5
A real example of "if they can do it to him, they an do it to you" In fact, they do. All the time. Twitch streamers regularly register with their local law enforcement to help limit risk of swatting.
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 9, 2024 11:04:09 GMT -5
So Im listening to the oral arguments before the DC appeals court and what a fucking nonsensical argument. Basically, a president can assassinate a political official with immunity as long as he's not impeached for it. So as long as there's no impeachment, the president can basically do anything. Jesus Christ how fucking moronic. As long as a president then has enough political power, such as impeachment proof party power, he can do wtf he ever wants. I've never heard such a dumb, Machiavellian argument by anyone. It is absolutely insane. A President can assassinate any foreign political official because he is acting in the role of Commander in Chief and he is granted wide latitude in determining what is in the best interests of the nation. However, Congress established within the last decade when Obama drone striked an American national on foreign soil that everyone agrees was a terrorist that there are clear lines drawn when it comes to American nationals and required the President to add additional oversight and restrictions to such actions.
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 11:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Jan 9, 2024 11:22:51 GMT -5
Eight bucks?? Does it come with caviar?
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Post by LA_Randy on Jan 9, 2024 11:57:23 GMT -5
Hey Randy, any bad storm effects? We're supposed to get it this afternoon. Nothing here but the wind today is gusting to 40mph which makes the 40 degree temp seem somewhat chilly.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 11:58:24 GMT -5
So Im listening to the oral arguments before the DC appeals court and what a fucking nonsensical argument. Basically, a president can assassinate a political official with immunity as long as he's not impeached for it. So as long as there's no impeachment, the president can basically do anything. Jesus Christ how fucking moronic. As long as a president then has enough political power, such as impeachment proof party power, he can do wtf he ever wants. I've never heard such a dumb, Machiavellian argument by anyone. It is absolutely insane. A President can assassinate any foreign political official because he is acting in the role of Commander in Chief and he is granted wide latitude in determining what is in the best interests of the nation. However, Congress established within the last decade when Obama drone striked an American national on foreign soil that everyone agrees was a terrorist that there are clear lines drawn when it comes to American nationals and required the President to add additional oversight and restrictions to such actions. The example here was not say assassination of a foreign leader, but an actual political opponent. Meaning domestic assassination such as what they do say in Russia. But officially. Not overt.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 11:58:52 GMT -5
Eight bucks?? Does it come with caviar? Extra premium with champagne.
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 9, 2024 12:08:16 GMT -5
A President can assassinate any foreign political official because he is acting in the role of Commander in Chief and he is granted wide latitude in determining what is in the best interests of the nation. However, Congress established within the last decade when Obama drone striked an American national on foreign soil that everyone agrees was a terrorist that there are clear lines drawn when it comes to American nationals and required the President to add additional oversight and restrictions to such actions. The example here was not say assassination of a foreign leader, but an actual political opponent. Meaning domestic assassination such as what they do say in Russia. But officially. Not overt. I do believe my post demonstrates the limits of such a claim...
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 12:18:04 GMT -5
The example here was not say assassination of a foreign leader, but an actual political opponent. Meaning domestic assassination such as what they do say in Russia. But officially. Not overt. I do believe my post demonstrates the limits of such a claim... Not really but it is an insane claim that youre immune against prosecution if you're simply not impeached.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 12:25:36 GMT -5
One interesting part is that Trumps argument is that only impeachment can then lead to liability in court, while they argued previously that there's no reason for impeachment because they can be criminally charged post presidency. So Trump has made the argument both for and against immunity himself. And was called out by the DC appeals court on stating just that.
And that is why Trump has the legal advice of the jumbo team.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 12:32:02 GMT -5
One of the arguments in regards to the hypothetical asked if a president could use a seal team to kill a political opponent, the Trump lawyers said that the founders were more worried about someone using the political process to 'prosecute their political opponent' like they're claiming is happening now. But apparently assassinating them, as to get rid of political opponents, that they didn't worry about.
Using the legal system bad
Assassinating fine
The stupid runs deep.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 12:48:28 GMT -5
Billionaires motto
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Post by LA_Randy on Jan 9, 2024 13:00:28 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 15:07:42 GMT -5
As predicted, Trump had to do his normal presser after oral arguments, which was - the president has to have immunity and we did nothing wrong.
That's right. This is just done on principle.
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Post by LA_Randy on Jan 9, 2024 15:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 15:40:00 GMT -5
Trump in a rant that require little context, but is perfect fodder for the brainless idiots in the audience. On USS Gerald R. Ford there are apparently electro magnetic lifts instead of hydraulic ones. Supposedly because of speed of moving aircrafts up and down to the top or bay. So Trump dumbfuck went on a rant that was basically how this lead to cost overrun (which might be true) and that it can be defeated by a glass of water. Basically. Carriers travel on water. Water can supposedly ruin magnets by drops or stuff and therefor is not a good idea I guess.
It as with everything Trump talk about. Utter BS. And it is consumed by the idiots who think he's Gods instrument on earth.
I do wonder tho with anyone in the audience that might have some passing knowledge about magnets, and I assume some use electromagnetic devices in some capacity, or has used some - if they don't go - well that sounds like absolutely horse shit? Why am I listening to this guy? Oh yes, racism. But that other shit - he sounds like a fucking moron. Oh, the audience is cheering. Are they stupid too? Am I the problem here? Is there a shortage of racists in GOP that I can hitch my wagons too?
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 9, 2024 16:45:33 GMT -5
Trump in a rant that require little context, but is perfect fodder for the brainless idiots in the audience. On USS Gerald R. Ford there are apparently electro magnetic lifts instead of hydraulic ones. Supposedly because of speed of moving aircrafts up and down to the top or bay. So Trump dumbfuck went on a rant that was basically how this lead to cost overrun (which might be true) and that it can be defeated by a glass of water. Basically. Carriers travel on water. Water can supposedly ruin magnets by drops or stuff and therefor is not a good idea I guess. It as with everything Trump talk about. Utter BS. And it is consumed by the idiots who think he's Gods instrument on earth. I do wonder tho with anyone in the audience that might have some passing knowledge about magnets, and I assume some use electromagnetic devices in some capacity, or has used some - if they don't go - well that sounds like absolutely horse shit? Why am I listening to this guy? Oh yes, racism. But that other shit - he sounds like a fucking moron. Oh, the audience is cheering. Are they stupid too? Am I the problem here? Is there a shortage of racists in GOP that I can hitch my wagons too? Could there be a seawater corrosion problem and he didn't understand the difference between corrosion and demagnitization? (Assuming that something that came out of his mouth might in any way be based upon something real)
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 17:25:44 GMT -5
Trump in a rant that require little context, but is perfect fodder for the brainless idiots in the audience. On USS Gerald R. Ford there are apparently electro magnetic lifts instead of hydraulic ones. Supposedly because of speed of moving aircrafts up and down to the top or bay. So Trump dumbfuck went on a rant that was basically how this lead to cost overrun (which might be true) and that it can be defeated by a glass of water. Basically. Carriers travel on water. Water can supposedly ruin magnets by drops or stuff and therefor is not a good idea I guess. It as with everything Trump talk about. Utter BS. And it is consumed by the idiots who think he's Gods instrument on earth. I do wonder tho with anyone in the audience that might have some passing knowledge about magnets, and I assume some use electromagnetic devices in some capacity, or has used some - if they don't go - well that sounds like absolutely horse shit? Why am I listening to this guy? Oh yes, racism. But that other shit - he sounds like a fucking moron. Oh, the audience is cheering. Are they stupid too? Am I the problem here? Is there a shortage of racists in GOP that I can hitch my wagons too? Could there be a seawater corrosion problem and he didn't understand the difference between corrosion and demagnitization? (Assuming that something that came out of his mouth might in any way be based upon something real) True, corrosion is even a real problem with hydraulics. But in this case I think it either demagnetize (he was talking about magnets) the lift, or that it shorts the electro magnetic lift. Either way he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. I personally think he heard electro magnetic lift and confused it with magnets. That there are these massive blocks of bare magnets that is moved up and down to lift the platform. He is a simple minded dumbass so I think he has this cartoonish image in his mind and that a little splash of water/sea water will break it.
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Post by mrobvious on Jan 9, 2024 17:30:16 GMT -5
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Post by forgottenlord on Jan 9, 2024 17:35:51 GMT -5
Maybe it's because the motion of the carrier on the waves impacts the ability to meet the tolerances and he somehow morphed that to "ocean bad for electromagnet" to "water bad for magnet"
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