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Post by newhivemaster on Jul 5, 2016 7:17:11 GMT -5
Good morning, Hive!!!
New pic up in the 1000 words thread.
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 7:57:37 GMT -5
Just read yesterday's thread - wow, FL took Wernie to the woodshed. All the while, thanking him for actually being articulate.
It was pretty enjoyable.
So was the fact (As Randy pointed out) that Wernie seems confused on the difference between Rights vs Privileges.
It really does make me shake my head.
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 8:08:55 GMT -5
You've likely seen the green sludge that's coated many of the beaches in the southern portion of my state. It's got to be a combo of federal, state, and water management agency missteps - largely with the best intentions of preventing disaster at heart. (No problem for me - I'm hundreds of miles away from the mess - but Sis in Miami may be affected by it.) Lake Okeechobee is the big hole you see on a Florida map. Storm runoff, mixed with fertilizer and oil and sewage and God knows what, flows down river and into the Atlantic Ocean. The runoff is full of phosphorus as well, which triggers algae blooms. The sugar industry loves them some phosphate dumping! Lurch is in their back pocket so he has no desire to regulate Big Sugar. I'm intrigued as to the level of fault for this literal mess. But as stated earlier the problem started a while back: www.news-press.com/story/news/2016/02/04/corps-maximizing-release-flows/79823936/ |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 8:18:18 GMT -5
The NRA’s election strategy: Why the group’s latest ad campaigns have nothing to do with guns As sneaky as it is unpopular, the NRA is shilling red meat and doing the Republicans' work for them Last week the NRA revealed that it was going to be spending 2 million dollars on ads in swing districts on behalf of Donald Trump. There’s nothing surprising in this since they very ostentatiously endorsed him last month at their national convention. But their first ad has caused a lot of people to scratch their heads in confusion. With all the controversy over mass shootings and the gun proliferation activists digging in their heels one would expect the NRA to focus on … gun rights. But the ad is about Hillary Clinton and Benghazi. What gives? If there is one membership group in America with a reputation for in-your-face, take-no-prisoners politics it’s the NRA. After the horrific massacre at Newtown the conventional wisdom, even among members of the NRA executive board, was that the organization was going to have to agree to some compromise after years of total intransigence. Even they were shaken by the cold-blooded mass murder of 21 tiny six-year-olds by a mentally ill young man with an AR-15. But Wayne LaPierre held his ground and went to Washington and gave a stem-winding press conference in which he not only refused to compromise he took it a step further and demanded that the gun laws be loosened so that kindergarten teachers could be armed. And it worked. Popular gun background check legislation died along with all those babies. But there have been many more mass shootings since then from college campuses to Planned Parenthood clinics to lone wolf terrorist attacks culminating in the horrific slaughter last month in Orlando. The frustrated Democrats finally reached their limits and staged a sit-in on the House floor to just try to get Speaker Paul Ryan to allow a vote on two bills, one for the background checks and one to ban people on the no-fly list from being able to instantly buy weapons. It was a cathartic demonstration of anger and desperation but there is little hope that it will make a difference. The Republicans are not willing to budge even though the legislation has majority support even among NRA members. Those of us who’ve been watching this battle over guns for a while will remember that the last time the NRA was this unpopular was back in the early ’90s. The movement to ban semi-automatic weapons had finally reached critical mass and when Bill Clinton came into office the banning of these guns was a central plank of the 1993 Crime Bill. The gun lobby considered the passage of that bill a massive defeat. www.salon.com/2016/07/05/the_nras_election_strategy_why_the_groups_latest_ad_campaigns_have_nothing_to_do_with_guns/ |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 8:19:39 GMT -5
Protesters, white nationalists and armed delegates: What could possibly go wrong at the GOP convention? White supremacists plan to make their presence felt in Cleveland, adding more fuel to a highly combustible mixture If you are in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention in two weeks, here are some sights you can expect to see: White nationalists defending Donald Trump supporters from “leftist thugs.” Armed RNC delegates. Though the Secret Service will prohibit guns inside the Quicken Loans Arena, where the convention will be held, obviously they can’t protect all the attendees roaming the city in their spare time. What if they encounter some of those leftist thugs? Or ISIS decides to attack? (If ISIS does attack Cleveland, Republicans can thank conservative “journalist” James O’Keefe for planting the idea in their heads.) Thousands of liberal and leftist protesters. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. (I hear it’s nice!) If the first three items on that list sound like the ingredients for a combustible mixture, well, that’s because they are. Just last week in Sacramento, members of the same white nationalist organization that plans on attending the RNC, the Traditionalist Worker Party, were holding a rally when they encountered a group of counter-protesters. Fighting broke out, resulting in seven stabbings and nine hospitalizations. The rally, held in conjunction with a group called the Golden State Skinheads, was not a protest for the usual white supremacist grievances about race mixing or Jews or too many brown-skinned people immigrating to America. It was, according to the New Yorker, about Donald Trump. It was about showing the world that, in the words of the head of the TWP, there are hard-core Trump supporters who “won’t back down” in the face of people protesting Trump’s xenophobic, racist campaign. This melee comes on the heels of a primary season in which Trump rallies were marred by violence when anti-racism protestors ran up against the candidate’s supporters. At least one white supremacist was drafted to serve as a Trump delegate at the convention before the campaign caught wind and asked him to step down. Trump himself got caught flat-footed when asked to disavow the endorsement of his candidacy by known Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. Throughout the spring, he has refused to offer a full-throated denouncement of this surge of white supremacy, which has lain just below the surface of conservative politics for decades. Why would he denounce it when it is one of the animating forces driving the GOP base? Especially since, by all appearances, he agrees with some of the ideas underlying it. Mexicans are swarming the border and stealing American jobs? That’s a foundational element of both Trumpism and the white nationalism of the TWP and other groups. www.salon.com/2016/07/05/protesters_white_nationalists_and_armed_delegates_what_could_possibly_go_wrong_at_the_gop_convention/ |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 8:22:50 GMT -5
How “4th Generation Warfare” helps to explain the rise of Donald Trump Sociologist Dr. James Scaminaci III talks to Salon about Trump's connection to extreme elements in the right wing You have observed and studied right-wing American politics for many years. What is your take on this year’s election?The mainstream media wanted this mud wrestling spectacle between Trump and Clinton because of ratings and profits. They now have their dream matchup. I have supported Bernie Sanders from day one. I still support Bernie 100 percent. Trump needs to be defeated, as does the neoliberal economic model and neoconservative national security model. We need a more robust progressive movement and politics. We need to keep organizing and we need to replace corporate Democrats with progressive Democrats. The Democratic Party needs to be transformed into a party that represents the needs and aspirations of the 99 percent. One of the dominant frames in the mainstream news media is that Donald Trump is some type of surprise, an aberration of sorts, that has come out of nowhere to bulldoze the 2016 Republican presidential field. Is this narrative accurate? Trump is the logical outcome and expression of what has always been present in the Republican Party. White supremacy is the operating system of America and it is strongest in the Republican Party. Marc Hetherington and Jonathan Weiler in their book Authoritarianism & Polarization in American Politics demonstrate that the two major political parties have sorted their supporters out along the authoritarianism dimension, with the Republican Party stronger on authoritarianism and the Democratic Party weaker. That is not to say that every Republican is an authoritarian or vice versa. But, authoritarianism is correlated with being anti-black, racial resentment, anti-immigrant, against reproductive rights, and against gay rights, for example. We also know from George Lakoff that the family model of the right-wing is the strict father model which is based on authority, obedience, discipline, and punishment. This is consistent with the extreme rightward turn of the Republican Party. Trump’s right-wing populism is also consistent with academic studies of the Tea Party movement in which supporters favored Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid for people like themselves and opposed all types of social welfare programs for non-whites, people they thought were undeserving. If you look at these deep, swirling undercurrents, why should it be a surprise that Donald Trump has triumphed? In my writings here at Salon and elsewhere I have described Donald Trump as a proto-fascist. Do you think this description is accurate? I defer to Chip Berlet, arguably one of the progressive movement’s leading researchers on the right-wing. Berlet argues that while it is tempting to label Trump a fascist or neo-fascist, that he is in reality a “right-wing populist bully.” Berlet has written that right-wing populism is based upon prejudice, bigotry, racism, demonization, scapegoating, and conspiracy theories aimed at the governing elite. Trump has used all of these devices and psychological weapons to vanquish his political rivals for the nomination and now to arouse rage in his supporters directed at very specific social categories. www.salon.com/2016/07/05/how_4th_generation_warfare_helps_to_explain_the_rise_of_donald_trump/ |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 8:35:20 GMT -5
Protesters, white nationalists and armed delegates: What could possibly go wrong at the GOP convention? White supremacists plan to make their presence felt in Cleveland, adding more fuel to a highly combustible mixture If you are in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention in two weeks, here are some sights you can expect to see: White nationalists defending Donald Trump supporters from “leftist thugs.” Armed RNC delegates. Though the Secret Service will prohibit guns inside the Quicken Loans Arena, where the convention will be held, obviously they can’t protect all the attendees roaming the city in their spare time. What if they encounter some of those leftist thugs? Or ISIS decides to attack? (If ISIS does attack Cleveland, Republicans can thank conservative “journalist” James O’Keefe for planting the idea in their heads.) Thousands of liberal and leftist protesters. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. (I hear it’s nice!) If the first three items on that list sound like the ingredients for a combustible mixture, well, that’s because they are. Just last week in Sacramento, members of the same white nationalist organization that plans on attending the RNC, the Traditionalist Worker Party, were holding a rally when they encountered a group of counter-protesters. Fighting broke out, resulting in seven stabbings and nine hospitalizations. The rally, held in conjunction with a group called the Golden State Skinheads, was not a protest for the usual white supremacist grievances about race mixing or Jews or too many brown-skinned people immigrating to America. It was, according to the New Yorker, about Donald Trump. It was about showing the world that, in the words of the head of the TWP, there are hard-core Trump supporters who “won’t back down” in the face of people protesting Trump’s xenophobic, racist campaign. This melee comes on the heels of a primary season in which Trump rallies were marred by violence when anti-racism protestors ran up against the candidate’s supporters. At least one white supremacist was drafted to serve as a Trump delegate at the convention before the campaign caught wind and asked him to step down. Trump himself got caught flat-footed when asked to disavow the endorsement of his candidacy by known Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. Throughout the spring, he has refused to offer a full-throated denouncement of this surge of white supremacy, which has lain just below the surface of conservative politics for decades. Why would he denounce it when it is one of the animating forces driving the GOP base? Especially since, by all appearances, he agrees with some of the ideas underlying it. Mexicans are swarming the border and stealing American jobs? That’s a foundational element of both Trumpism and the white nationalism of the TWP and other groups. www.salon.com/2016/07/05/protesters_white_nationalists_and_armed_delegates_what_could_possibly_go_wrong_at_the_gop_convention/Big Media equate Hil's email "scandal" with TTICD's blatant racism and call it all "untrustworthy"...the "BSDI" baloney. Hil has made mistakes and her husband is a two-edged sword of brilliance and knuckleheadedness, but to say that she can't be trusted to run the country is a crock. TTI on the other hand can't stay out of embarrassing situations and has zero statesman qualities. |
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Post by forgottenlord on Jul 5, 2016 8:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 9:00:53 GMT -5
Protesters, white nationalists and armed delegates: What could possibly go wrong at the GOP convention? White supremacists plan to make their presence felt in Cleveland, adding more fuel to a highly combustible mixture If you are in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention in two weeks, here are some sights you can expect to see: White nationalists defending Donald Trump supporters from “leftist thugs.” Armed RNC delegates. Though the Secret Service will prohibit guns inside the Quicken Loans Arena, where the convention will be held, obviously they can’t protect all the attendees roaming the city in their spare time. What if they encounter some of those leftist thugs? Or ISIS decides to attack? (If ISIS does attack Cleveland, Republicans can thank conservative “journalist” James O’Keefe for planting the idea in their heads.) Thousands of liberal and leftist protesters. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. (I hear it’s nice!) If the first three items on that list sound like the ingredients for a combustible mixture, well, that’s because they are. Just last week in Sacramento, members of the same white nationalist organization that plans on attending the RNC, the Traditionalist Worker Party, were holding a rally when they encountered a group of counter-protesters. Fighting broke out, resulting in seven stabbings and nine hospitalizations. The rally, held in conjunction with a group called the Golden State Skinheads, was not a protest for the usual white supremacist grievances about race mixing or Jews or too many brown-skinned people immigrating to America. It was, according to the New Yorker, about Donald Trump. It was about showing the world that, in the words of the head of the TWP, there are hard-core Trump supporters who “won’t back down” in the face of people protesting Trump’s xenophobic, racist campaign. This melee comes on the heels of a primary season in which Trump rallies were marred by violence when anti-racism protestors ran up against the candidate’s supporters. At least one white supremacist was drafted to serve as a Trump delegate at the convention before the campaign caught wind and asked him to step down. Trump himself got caught flat-footed when asked to disavow the endorsement of his candidacy by known Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. Throughout the spring, he has refused to offer a full-throated denouncement of this surge of white supremacy, which has lain just below the surface of conservative politics for decades. Why would he denounce it when it is one of the animating forces driving the GOP base? Especially since, by all appearances, he agrees with some of the ideas underlying it. Mexicans are swarming the border and stealing American jobs? That’s a foundational element of both Trumpism and the white nationalism of the TWP and other groups. www.salon.com/2016/07/05/protesters_white_nationalists_and_armed_delegates_what_could_possibly_go_wrong_at_the_gop_convention/Big Media equate Hil's email "scandal" with TTICD's blatant racism and call it all "untrustworthy"...the "BSDI" baloney. Hil has made mistakes and her husband is a two-edged sword of brilliance and knuckleheadedness, but to say that she can't be trusted to run the country is a crock. TTI on the other hand can't stay out of embarrassing situations and has zero statesman qualities. I agree; Slick Willie is brilliant and a complete idiot all at the same time. But he, and HIllary are very capable people. Trump, oh i'm mr successfull businessman, has been in Chapter 11 4 times - and each time skated away without consequences. THAT'S the guy you want in charge of nuclear codes?? Dude can't even run his company, much less a country. And he can't stop lying either. I laugh and feel sorry for Wernie all at the same time. Trump loves himself; he doesn't give a shit about people like wernie. He just wants the vote. The clintons might not care for anyone else either, but they are at least proposing things that help people. |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 9:06:07 GMT -5
Donald Trump Is Turning Republicans Into Anti-Vaxxers Study after study has shown no link between anti-vaxxers and party affiliation. Until now. Republicans are more skeptical of vaccine science than we may have previously realized—and Donald Trump may bear some of the blame. A new study, conducted for The Daily Beast by a researcher at Washington State University, found a relationship between Republican party affiliation and anti-vaccine sentiment. Survey participants who didn’t plan to vaccinate themselves or their families most often named Donald Trump as a public figure they thought shared their views. Anti-vaccine sentiment was also disturbingly high among Democrats who participated in the study, though not as prevalent as among Republicans. Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, has expressed significant skepticism about vaccine science over the years, even going so far as to suggest vaccines cause autism. As a result, he’s become a hero to many in the anti-vaxx movement—the rare public figure willing to champion their dangerous and incorrect beliefs. The new data runs counter to the prevailing public view on the relationship between political affiliation and vaccine skepticism—that there is little to no relationship—and suggests that Trump’s ascent in the Republican Party is related to doubts about vaccines among its members. Researchers ran an internet survey of 400 people in the United States on June 29 using Amazon’s Mechanical Turk. It’s a tool academics commonly use to survey large numbers of people, including those researching political psychology, consumer behavior, and social psychology. Participants answered one series of questions on their intentions to vaccinate themselves and their families, and another on their political views. Half the participants got the vaccine questions first, and the other half got the political questions first. After answering those questions, participants were asked to name public figures who they thought shared their views on vaccines. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/05/donald-trump-is-turning-republicans-into-anti-vaxxers.htmlSeriously, Trump will be the downfall of the USA. Do you guys know who Valentinian III is? Look him up; it's Trump. And the results will be the same, if this asshat is elected. |
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 9:07:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is paranoia, a slow news day, or legit. But it IS interesting. Is China’s Mysterious New Satellite Really a Junk Collector—or a Weapon? The Chinese say the high-tech satellite they launched will clean up space debris, but its extendable robotic arm has some wondering whether it could have a more sinister purpose. China just boosted a high-tech, mysterious new satellite into orbit. It might be a weapon. It might not be a weapon. There’s no way to be certain, either way—and that’s a problem for all spacefaring countries. Especially the United States and China. Washington and Beijing are lofting more and more of these ambiguous satellites into orbit without agreements governing their use. In failing to agree to the proverbial rules of the orbital road, the two governments risk ongoing suspicion, or worse—a misunderstanding possibly leading to war. The Roaming Dragon satellite rode into space atop a Long March 7 rocket that blasted off from Hainan in southern China on June 25. Officially, Roaming Dragon is a space-junk collector. Its job, according to Beijing, is to pluck old spacecraft and other debris from Earth’s orbit and safely plunge them back to the planet’s surface. For sure, orbital debris poses a real hazard to the world’s spacecraft. In the summer of 2015, astronauts aboard the International Space Station—including two Russians and an American—sought shelter inside an escape craft when a chunk of an old Russian satellite appeared to be on a collision course with the station. Luckily, the debris missed the space station. All the same, NASA and other space agencies have voiced their concern over the accumulation of manmade junk in space—and have taken initial steps to remove the most dangerous chunks. Hence Roaming Dragon’s official mission. “China, as a responsible big country, has committed to the control and reduction of space debris,” Tang Yagang, a scientist with the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, wrote on the Chinese space agency’s website. But the Roaming Dragon’s design—specifically, its maneuverability and its nimble, extendable robotic arm—mean it could also function as a weapon, zooming close to and dismantling satellites belonging to rival countries. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/05/is-china-s-mysterious-new-satellite-really-a-junk-collector-or-a-weapon.html |
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Post by forgottenlord on Jul 5, 2016 9:34:03 GMT -5
Ok..... I'm curious. Right wing sites are in a tizzy because apparently, Clinton printed out paper copies of her schedules and then sent them to a burn bag when she was finished. For some reason, mainstream media has not picked it up which makes me wonder why. I'm guessing there's another half to that deposition (such as "there was no need to keep the paper record as the electronic record still stood"), but I am curious as to what the other detail is that the right wing is ignoring.
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Post by mrobvious on Jul 5, 2016 9:45:49 GMT -5
Just read yesterday's thread - wow, FL took Wernie to the woodshed. All the while, thanking him for actually being articulate. It was pretty enjoyable. So was the fact (As Randy pointed out) that Wernie seems confused on the difference between Rights vs Privileges. It really does make me shake my head. It started with 'I read on a conservative site' and ended with 'is it true?' What he read sounded like the typical BS from 'wingers - hysterical babble. I can't say it improved from that premise. And then he regurgitated the nonsense about voter suppression. 'I mean you have to use ID everywhere else'. When you make the process of obtaining the ID in order to vote so one sided (can use firearms IDs but not Student or other information). However the example of a black from moving from Illinois to Wisconsin show the terrible process he had to go through in order to get this fixed. It's not that using an ID is the bad thing; it is that the process is so perfectly meant to make people think twice and not vote. With states that closed most of the places where they could get an ID (which just happened to be in mostly black areas) to the process being extra hard. Kevin just don't want to open his eyes to the fact that GOPers in GOP states are using these laws to discourage Dems to vote. Simply because they know that they need to disenfranchise voters in order to win. |
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Post by mrobvious on Jul 5, 2016 9:52:46 GMT -5
In Illinois a local gun store in McHenry county want to raffle off a similar Semi Automatic rifle that the shooter users to give to victims of the Orlando shooter.
Some people ain't right.
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Post by roknsteve on Jul 5, 2016 9:58:22 GMT -5
Donald Trump Is Turning Republicans Into Anti-Vaxxers Study after study has shown no link between anti-vaxxers and party affiliation. Until now. Republicans are more skeptical of vaccine science than we may have previously realized—and Donald Trump may bear some of the blame. A new study, conducted for The Daily Beast by a researcher at Washington State University, found a relationship between Republican party affiliation and anti-vaccine sentiment. Survey participants who didn’t plan to vaccinate themselves or their families most often named Donald Trump as a public figure they thought shared their views. Anti-vaccine sentiment was also disturbingly high among Democrats who participated in the study, though not as prevalent as among Republicans. Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, has expressed significant skepticism about vaccine science over the years, even going so far as to suggest vaccines cause autism. As a result, he’s become a hero to many in the anti-vaxx movement—the rare public figure willing to champion their dangerous and incorrect beliefs. The new data runs counter to the prevailing public view on the relationship between political affiliation and vaccine skepticism—that there is little to no relationship—and suggests that Trump’s ascent in the Republican Party is related to doubts about vaccines among its members. Researchers ran an internet survey of 400 people in the United States on June 29 using Amazon’s Mechanical Turk. It’s a tool academics commonly use to survey large numbers of people, including those researching political psychology, consumer behavior, and social psychology. Participants answered one series of questions on their intentions to vaccinate themselves and their families, and another on their political views. Half the participants got the vaccine questions first, and the other half got the political questions first. After answering those questions, participants were asked to name public figures who they thought shared their views on vaccines. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/05/donald-trump-is-turning-republicans-into-anti-vaxxers.htmlSeriously, Trump will be the downfall of the USA. Do you guys know who Valentinian III is? Look him up; it's Trump. And the results will be the same, if this asshat is elected. Flu Vaccines: How do people know what strain they're getting? Is it old stock that Big Pharma is dumping? Or is it the latest strain? Personally, I haven't had a flu shot since the early 1970's and neither has Kellie. Her sister Nikki is a retired nurse and doesn't get flu shots either. I agree that children should have all their shots, but not babies. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 10:12:11 GMT -5
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Post by forgottenlord on Jul 5, 2016 10:14:48 GMT -5
Donald Trump Is Turning Republicans Into Anti-Vaxxers Study after study has shown no link between anti-vaxxers and party affiliation. Until now. Republicans are more skeptical of vaccine science than we may have previously realized—and Donald Trump may bear some of the blame. A new study, conducted for The Daily Beast by a researcher at Washington State University, found a relationship between Republican party affiliation and anti-vaccine sentiment. Survey participants who didn’t plan to vaccinate themselves or their families most often named Donald Trump as a public figure they thought shared their views. Anti-vaccine sentiment was also disturbingly high among Democrats who participated in the study, though not as prevalent as among Republicans. Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, has expressed significant skepticism about vaccine science over the years, even going so far as to suggest vaccines cause autism. As a result, he’s become a hero to many in the anti-vaxx movement—the rare public figure willing to champion their dangerous and incorrect beliefs. The new data runs counter to the prevailing public view on the relationship between political affiliation and vaccine skepticism—that there is little to no relationship—and suggests that Trump’s ascent in the Republican Party is related to doubts about vaccines among its members. Researchers ran an internet survey of 400 people in the United States on June 29 using Amazon’s Mechanical Turk. It’s a tool academics commonly use to survey large numbers of people, including those researching political psychology, consumer behavior, and social psychology. Participants answered one series of questions on their intentions to vaccinate themselves and their families, and another on their political views. Half the participants got the vaccine questions first, and the other half got the political questions first. After answering those questions, participants were asked to name public figures who they thought shared their views on vaccines. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/05/donald-trump-is-turning-republicans-into-anti-vaxxers.htmlSeriously, Trump will be the downfall of the USA. Do you guys know who Valentinian III is? Look him up; it's Trump. And the results will be the same, if this asshat is elected. Flu Vaccines: How do people know what strain they're getting? Is it old stock that Big Pharma is dumping? Or is it the latest strain? Personally, I haven't had a flu shot since the early 1970's and neither has Kellie. Her sister Nikki is a retired nurse and doesn't get flu shots either. I agree that children should have all their shots, but not babies. I don't know about the US, but in Canada its the strains directed by Health Canada. I wouldn't be surprised if the CDC is pushing it in the US That said, I don't get my flu shot. As a healthy adult, I think it is a good thing for my body to get the practice rounds in against the flu even though it does carry some small risk. Everything else I get the shots for. As for babies or not, I'll take the recommendations of doctors. Though the vaccines I'm concerned about with anti-vaxxers are definitely not he flu. |
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Post by LA_Randy on Jul 5, 2016 10:17:40 GMT -5
Don't they have to expire before they are resurrected. ;-) |
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Post by forgottenlord on Jul 5, 2016 10:18:17 GMT -5
Isn't that the one where the CEO asked the Union to accept a pay cut and then gave himself 100M in bonuses in part for lowering employment costs so the next time their contract came up, he asked them to accept a pay cut and when they refused because of his bullshit last time, he took his ball and went home? |
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Post by mrobvious on Jul 5, 2016 10:25:58 GMT -5
Looks like FBI think there's nothing there in the nothingburger. Sure, people were 'careless' but other than the finger wagging and stern looks it turns out that the big last hope of the mole people is a big pft.
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Post by newhivemaster on Jul 5, 2016 10:27:03 GMT -5
Ok..... I'm curious. Right wing sites are in a tizzy because apparently, Clinton printed out paper copies of her schedules and then sent them to a burn bag when she was finished. For some reason, mainstream media has not picked it up which makes me wonder why. I'm guessing there's another half to that deposition (such as "there was no need to keep the paper record as the electronic record still stood"), but I am curious as to what the other detail is that the right wing is ignoring.Reality? Common sense? Legal ramifications? Take your pick, including all of the above. |
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Post by roknsteve on Jul 5, 2016 10:35:47 GMT -5
Don't they have to expire before they are resurrected. ;-) Yes. Then they inject them with Triple Cayenne Oil. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 11:21:03 GMT -5
Isn't that the one where the CEO asked the Union to accept a pay cut and then gave himself 100M in bonuses in part for lowering employment costs so the next time their contract came up, he asked them to accept a pay cut and when they refused because of his bullshit last time, he took his ball and went home? Sounds familiar. Old Hostess was dissolved after the workers struck. The company had to be taken out of bankruptcy by new entities. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 11:24:52 GMT -5
Looks like FBI think there's nothing there in the nothingburger. Sure, people were 'careless' but other than the finger wagging and stern looks it turns out that the big last hope of the mole people is a big pft. All signs point to that. Which seems to me that neocons perpetuated this b/c a) they can't keep up with rapid changes in technology, b) the global demands of the SOS job and c) Hillary. |
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Post by forgottenlord on Jul 5, 2016 11:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by Outsider on Jul 5, 2016 11:42:57 GMT -5
And Trump is using his extensive grade 5 reading level to express himself. Very unfair! That is a direct quote. I didn't even have to make it up. |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 11:46:12 GMT -5
Again, tech had changed in the four years she was in office. Not excusing the decisions, but wouldn't it be easier to conduct business from wherever you are in the world right then instead of waiting til you got back from Foggy Bottom? |
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Post by jarais on Jul 5, 2016 11:48:22 GMT -5
Donald Trump Is Turning Republicans Into Anti-Vaxxers Study after study has shown no link between anti-vaxxers and party affiliation. Until now. Republicans are more skeptical of vaccine science than we may have previously realized—and Donald Trump may bear some of the blame. A new study, conducted for The Daily Beast by a researcher at Washington State University, found a relationship between Republican party affiliation and anti-vaccine sentiment. Survey participants who didn’t plan to vaccinate themselves or their families most often named Donald Trump as a public figure they thought shared their views. Anti-vaccine sentiment was also disturbingly high among Democrats who participated in the study, though not as prevalent as among Republicans. Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, has expressed significant skepticism about vaccine science over the years, even going so far as to suggest vaccines cause autism. As a result, he’s become a hero to many in the anti-vaxx movement—the rare public figure willing to champion their dangerous and incorrect beliefs. The new data runs counter to the prevailing public view on the relationship between political affiliation and vaccine skepticism—that there is little to no relationship—and suggests that Trump’s ascent in the Republican Party is related to doubts about vaccines among its members. Researchers ran an internet survey of 400 people in the United States on June 29 using Amazon’s Mechanical Turk. It’s a tool academics commonly use to survey large numbers of people, including those researching political psychology, consumer behavior, and social psychology. Participants answered one series of questions on their intentions to vaccinate themselves and their families, and another on their political views. Half the participants got the vaccine questions first, and the other half got the political questions first. After answering those questions, participants were asked to name public figures who they thought shared their views on vaccines. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/05/donald-trump-is-turning-republicans-into-anti-vaxxers.htmlSeriously, Trump will be the downfall of the USA. Do you guys know who Valentinian III is? Look him up; it's Trump. And the results will be the same, if this asshat is elected. I get the flu shot every year because I'm in a family of medical professionals and who knows what nasty stuff they're bringing back from the hospital. They may not always get the strain right, but it gets your immune system ready to the point that you handle even colds a bit better. I haven't had the flu since I was a teenager. I also had go to the infectious disease clinic a few times to get specific travel vaccines when I traveled as a student because the insurance related to the more remote study abroad or research grant programs required it. Those vaccines probably worked because the only catastrophic illness I had abroad was related to accidental poisoning, chemical exposure. (I thank the US regulatory state for OSHA and the EPA every day). |
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Post by foggyisback on Jul 5, 2016 11:49:09 GMT -5
And Trump is using his extensive grade 5 reading level to express himself. Very unfair! That is a direct quote. I didn't even have to make it up. He knows deep down that he can't possibly win now. She, thx to the FBI, has gotten away with her 'crookedness'. |
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Post by jarais on Jul 5, 2016 12:02:56 GMT -5
My Bernie-or-Bust(ish) friend already despairing that Hillary's emails have handed Trump the election. I tried to remind her that straight white people aren't the only people who vote. She can't be comforted.
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