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Post by foggyisback on Oct 19, 2023 3:12:38 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 19, 2023 7:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 19, 2023 8:04:42 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 8:08:52 GMT -5
I know they're speaking to their idiot base, but what does that actually do for them? In their continued pursuit to blame Dems for everything, do they think that their lack of popular support will change? The inability to deal with reality is why they're in chaos and why people think they're morons. This guy is probably not as stupid as he sounds and I bet he's in a really safe district. But Jesus. Who can have any respect for such nonsense?
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 8:56:19 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 9:45:27 GMT -5
It should be noted that while there continue to be dispute about who fired against that particular hospital - whether it was a misfired rocket or deliberate Israeli attack, Israel did shell the same hospital the Saturdays before it (an artillery shell hit one of their wards.
But, here's the bigger picture.
The fact is that Israel is deliberately targeting hospitals. As well as civilians in the south; the so called safe zone according to Israel. And they are targeting the only gateway to Egypt, making it hard for Egypt to deliver aid to Gaza.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 9:56:45 GMT -5
Hmm.... today might be the semi-annual Auditor General report. Anyways, first subject: Permanent Residency programs are badly backlogged in spite of government efforts to shore them up www.cbc.ca/news/politics/karen-hogan-fall-2023-report-1.7001266It's programs plural because each type of immigration has separate queues and separate wait times. The target timeline for all of them is 12 months. Most do not get answers within 12 months with some programs, such as sponsored refugees, being backlogged 30 months. (Note: Ukrainian refugees would have a non-zero impact upon this)
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 19, 2023 10:21:09 GMT -5
It should be noted that while there continue to be dispute about who fired against that particular hospital - whether it was a misfired rocket or deliberate Israeli attack, Israel did shell the same hospital the Saturdays before it (an artillery shell hit one of their wards. But, here's the bigger picture. The fact is that Israel is deliberately targeting hospitals. As well as civilians in the south; the so called safe zone according to Israel. And they are targeting the only gateway to Egypt, making it hard for Egypt to deliver aid to Gaza. Still waiting on verification that 500 people were killed there. Given that most of the damage occurred in a parking lot, in failing to see how that in itself could kill so many.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 10:21:55 GMT -5
After the blood letting in Bakhmut, the Russians are now focused on a small town to the south of the area, and have lost hundreds of tanks and other armored vehicles in futile direct assaults, similar to how they bled their Infantry dry trying to take Bakhmut over and over. I'm having a hard time understanding this behavior. Generally when one attack fails, be it say a multi day engagement that blunts and exhausts potential surprise, you refine your attack. But doing the same thing over and over hoping that the enemy runs out of troops first, seems kind of stupid considering how many vehicles and soldiers Russia have lost in the process.
Is this just vanity on part of Putin or shitty commanders doing anything to keep Putin happy while they deplete their forces in turn.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 10:27:35 GMT -5
It should be noted that while there continue to be dispute about who fired against that particular hospital - whether it was a misfired rocket or deliberate Israeli attack, Israel did shell the same hospital the Saturdays before it (an artillery shell hit one of their wards. But, here's the bigger picture. The fact is that Israel is deliberately targeting hospitals. As well as civilians in the south; the so called safe zone according to Israel. And they are targeting the only gateway to Egypt, making it hard for Egypt to deliver aid to Gaza. Still waiting on verification that 500 people were killed there. Given that most of the damage occurred in a parking lot, in failing to see how that in itself could kill so many. I've heard everything from 200 to 500. Given that Israel's previous attacks on hospitals have killed fewer, it is hard to tell if they're simply inflating numbers or if there was a number of arriving patients there when the explosion hit. Plus you would see a veritable blood bath. Now people died. That has been verified on the ground and not just by Palestinian sources. How many might be in dispute. But that's honestly not relevant, because unless there are independent sources allowed to investigate it, we can't know if it was 10 or 1000. 500 seems unlikely however given that Israel has dropped over 6000 bombs (probably 9000 by now given their continued attacks) and roughly 3000+ dead. 1 hit for 500 seems unlikely. Regardless if it was a failed rocket or deliberate targeted. What matters is that Israel is deliberately targeting hospitals. Not even under the scenario of Militants hiding in the hospital (which Israel have never provided any proof of), is it legal. That is the big picture. How many is irrelevant. And the fact that Israel's government is not showing any concern for any of the hostages is pretty clear too.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 10:36:00 GMT -5
The Kraken cracked.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 10:36:16 GMT -5
After the blood letting in Bakhmut, the Russians are now focused on a small town to the south of the area, and have lost hundreds of tanks and other armored vehicles in futile direct assaults, similar to how they bled their Infantry dry trying to take Bakhmut over and over. I'm having a hard time understanding this behavior. Generally when one attack fails, be it say a multi day engagement that blunts and exhausts potential surprise, you refine your attack. But doing the same thing over and over hoping that the enemy runs out of troops first, seems kind of stupid considering how many vehicles and soldiers Russia have lost in the process. Is this just vanity on part of Putin or shitty commanders doing anything to keep Putin happy while they deplete their forces in turn. Wait, again? Concurrent with late stages of Bakhmut, Russians sacrificed over 100 tanks failing to take a town near Bakhmut. It was also a blindingly obvious trap: Ukraine mined all but a few approaches and then ranged out those remaining, narrow approaches and the Russians, day after day, went back down the same approaches.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 10:58:42 GMT -5
After the blood letting in Bakhmut, the Russians are now focused on a small town to the south of the area, and have lost hundreds of tanks and other armored vehicles in futile direct assaults, similar to how they bled their Infantry dry trying to take Bakhmut over and over. I'm having a hard time understanding this behavior. Generally when one attack fails, be it say a multi day engagement that blunts and exhausts potential surprise, you refine your attack. But doing the same thing over and over hoping that the enemy runs out of troops first, seems kind of stupid considering how many vehicles and soldiers Russia have lost in the process. Is this just vanity on part of Putin or shitty commanders doing anything to keep Putin happy while they deplete their forces in turn. Wait, again? Concurrent with late stages of Bakhmut, Russians sacrificed over 100 tanks failing to take a town near Bakhmut. It was also a blindingly obvious trap: Ukraine mined all but a few approaches and then ranged out those remaining, narrow approaches and the Russians, day after day, went back down the same approaches. Yup, the southern pincer where the focused most of their armor have been one repeated attack after another with the same results. The northern pincer is a little bit different and infantry heavy, but it is very much a repeat of Bakhmut, where they bleed attacking small targets, just to get counter attacked later on, losing what ever little gains they took. It is a repeat times 2 of Bakhmut.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 11:07:54 GMT -5
It sounds like the growing Plan B is to empower McHenry sufficiently that they can get the budget and any emergency provisions passed while they continue to bloodlet over the Speakership. The lunatic wing has already indicated opposition to this plan which almost certainly means that they'll need D votes and I'm expecting Jeffries to say "you had a deal with Biden"
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 19, 2023 11:09:13 GMT -5
Plan H is to give McHenry the speakership through the end of the year. Gym must think that waiting a while will change people's minds.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 11:22:41 GMT -5
Young people. You are humans first, your country second and your religion or ethnicity last. This is nothing new. Recognize the importance here; understanding right from wrong is hard when someone automatically label you as something, but my first response to anyone accusing me of anything is that, as a human I find your BS the typical drivel by the usual NPC malfunction. No one should ever let themselves be lead by a bunch of old fucks fighting ancient grudges as few of them can barely articulate what it is.
Here's a logical exercise. Lets say God gave Israel the area. And then they immediately lost it to a number of different conquering countries, empires and just nomadic hordes. Looks like God doesn't give a single shit does it. Here's another thing. What if there are a number of atomic bombs, blanketing the whole area and render it basically unlivable for the next hundreds of years. What will God do? Not a single shit. Just as God didn't do a single shit about the Holocausts and a number of other diasporas. And what did Allah do? Not a single shit. Muslims have taken and lost so much territory over a long period of time that you wonder why any of Christians, Muslims and Jews GOD, don't give a shit. I'm not saying God doesn't exist. I'm saying God is making it clear that he/she doesn't give a shit about who lives where, since ALL of earth was created for HUMANS (and various other critters that he charged humans with taking care of, bang up job that is turning out to be).
Simply put; this is a power struggle about dirt. Who has the dirt. As humans we shouldn't give a shit, but we do. And if you're a young person being dragged into this soup of BS by some old fucks who doesn't give one single shit if you die in the process (Hamas and the Israeli government don't care), why the fuck are you taking sides? The most powerful sign anyone could ever make, is if young Americans/British/Swedish etc people of Palestinian or Israeli ethnicity decide to say fuck this BS, we're going to go on with life. Because if the aging generation of sociopathic fucks no longer command younger generations in their idiotic bloodthirsty fight over stupid shit, there will not be any fight in the end.
Generation Z has greater problems to deal with. How to pay for housing. How to be able to afford to work and live. How to deal with a looming climate crisis and afford basic healthcare. Why bother with ancient shit that will not address or fix your real problems. Why be recruited into the barbarism of the past, while still suffering all future issues. Let them fix their shit. Let these aging sociopaths run out of warm bodies and fight their own fight for once.
Here's a suggestion. Lets put a massive wall around all of Israel. Let the whole shit cook since they have no sense to address any of it after all these years. All all young people living there that fancy themselves a different life, let them leave. Israeli and Palestinian alike. Leave it to the brain rotted morons to deal with this shit themselves.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 11:24:10 GMT -5
It sounds like the growing Plan B is to empower McHenry sufficiently that they can get the budget and any emergency provisions passed while they continue to bloodlet over the Speakership. The lunatic wing has already indicated opposition to this plan which almost certainly means that they'll need D votes and I'm expecting Jeffries to say "you had a deal with Biden" LOL, what a bunch of clows. Great way of showing voters that a vote for GOP means continued circus.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 11:35:41 GMT -5
Rashida Tlaib and her staff have endured threats from the lunatic right, the idiots that call themselves Jews and from GOP politicians since the start of the current conflict. Tell me what other Democratic politician that has done the same to ANY Republicans. And it is not only Republicans BTW, some of her brain rotten collogues are also falling into the trap of accusing her of shit, just because she is of Palestinian ethnicity. she's an American. She is a collogue. But the idiot brained just can't apparently get a hold of their emotions when trying to deal with a diverse argument. She has not stated any hatred of Jews or Israelis (there's a difference even if the idiot brained doesn't understand it). She has only stated the fact that Israel's apartheid policy is amoral.
It is a fact. Not in dispute. Sure, Israelis don't like that what they're doing is an occupation, forcing Palestinians into an open air prison, using apartheid policies and stealing Palestinians land. But what they don't like, and what is happening are two different things.
As an outside observer I find this entire thing appalling. If she did in fact support Hamas, she should be called out on it, just as any fuckturd that support Israelis apartheid policies should be too. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 11:51:13 GMT -5
Yesterday someone posted about an apoplectic margie calling the peaceful protests against continued war an 'insurrection'. And I was like, so someone confronted her and she blew a gasket. I just say the images of the loud protests - no one breaking anything, just using their voices as addressing the grievances of your elected is all about.
What a fucking drama queen. She will never understand true freedom. These protesters have a greater chance of being forcibly removed with violence then the idiot brained who tried to overthrow over government ever will.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 12:59:30 GMT -5
Jordan has suspended the third vote so his whip count is definitely worse than yesterday lending credence to the claim that they're staggering their opposition. Jordan's backing the McHenry empowerment plan. No idea if he can get Gaetz/et all to back it, though their pitch to Gaetz is definitely "if we back McHenry, he has negotiating power. If we don't back McHenry, McHenry will need to take whatever Jeffries offers him"
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 13:12:36 GMT -5
Jordan has suspended the third vote so his whip count is definitely worse than yesterday lending credence to the claim that they're staggering their opposition. Jordan's backing the McHenry empowerment plan. No idea if he can get Gaetz/et all to back it, though their pitch to Gaetz is definitely "if we back McHenry, he has negotiating power. If we don't back McHenry, McHenry will need to take whatever Jeffries offers him" I'm not sure Gaetz cares. I don't get the sense that this is as ideological as he sounds.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 13:31:33 GMT -5
I guess they forgot what Hannity implored, be nice. Or maybe that was just a bunch of liberals - you know how we are.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 13:33:05 GMT -5
Jordan has suspended the third vote so his whip count is definitely worse than yesterday lending credence to the claim that they're staggering their opposition. Jordan's backing the McHenry empowerment plan. No idea if he can get Gaetz/et all to back it, though their pitch to Gaetz is definitely "if we back McHenry, he has negotiating power. If we don't back McHenry, McHenry will need to take whatever Jeffries offers him" I'm not sure Gaetz cares. I don't get the sense that this is as ideological as he sounds. Like I said, I know the pitch, no idea if Gaetz takes it.
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 19, 2023 13:44:09 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 19, 2023 13:51:00 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 13:52:56 GMT -5
Note, this doesn't reflect cost of research or marketing, nor what people in Europe has to pay. This is uniquely American. Greed.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 13:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 19, 2023 14:06:36 GMT -5
An interesting point made about Sidney Powell pleading guilty is that Trump and the others won't see any of the discovery material and of course that Sidney will be a prosecution witness. I never thought about the discovery angle.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 19, 2023 14:11:53 GMT -5
An interesting point made about Sidney Powell pleading guilty is that Trump and the others won't see any of the discovery material and of course that Sidney will be a prosecution witness. I never thought about the discovery angle. Wasn't Powell joined with someone when her case was severed or am I confusing it with someone else? And if so, did that person plea? EDIT: Cheesebro. And he rejected the plea deal.
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Post by phillippatUK on Oct 19, 2023 14:54:44 GMT -5
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