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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 4:29:30 GMT -5
In the vein of Steve Martin: First off, lie that you're a billionaire.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 6:06:03 GMT -5
Apartheid will continue, as well as the atrocities.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 6:17:29 GMT -5
Imagine you're a so called conservative news outlet and you put together a cult event.
Normal? Not by any standard. Never mind the commentary. But having that black guy talk about how Jews love this guy, pointing to Mike Johnson - is the cringiest. Good lord.
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Post by LA_Randy on Nov 7, 2023 7:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Nov 7, 2023 7:43:12 GMT -5
Thread
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 7:53:34 GMT -5
Apartheid will continue, as well as the atrocities. Perhaps Nahoohoo thinks this will keep him in power indefinitely as well. He would think wrong.
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 8:14:26 GMT -5
Imagine you're a so called conservative news outlet and you put together a cult event. Normal? Not by any standard. Never mind the commentary. But having that black guy talk about how Jews love this guy, pointing to Mike Johnson - is the cringiest. Good lord. This says nothing about how much Donalds looks like a caricature. He's Stepin Fetchit of the 21st century (perhaps I'm being a bit too rough on SF, given his Wiki bio - I'll go with "minstrel" instead). BD isn't one who is treated with respect by white folks but is instead used as justification for their hate. "Ooo, he's married to a white woman so that gives us cover!" Donalds is such a sycophant.
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 8:43:15 GMT -5
If the 👞 were on the other foot....
"(Mary Trump) says the media (are) “obsessed” with labeling Biden as old while giving the Donald a free pass. It’s true. Let me pose a hypothetical question to you. If it had been BIDEN who forgot we had World War Two, Biden who thought Jeb Bush had been President, Biden who could not remember which town he was in, what do you think the media would have done?
“'BIDEN’S MENTAL DECLINE GETTING WORSE.' Yes, it would have been all over, everywhere, in cities with blinding lights, on the lips of solemn pundits, in neon headlines in every damn newspaper in the country. 'BIDEN SHOULD STEP ASIDE AS HE CAN’T REMEMBER THAT WE HAD A WORLD WAR TWO.'”
--Bocha Blue, Palmer Report
Neocons & MSM would be all over it.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 8:43:38 GMT -5
Apartheid will continue, as well as the atrocities. Perhaps Nahoohoo thinks this will keep him in power indefinitely as well. He would think wrong. Lets hope so - but this is beyond Bibi. Their entire fascist rightwing regime is infested with all the Bibi's.
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 8:55:55 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 9:09:51 GMT -5
It's election day for some states (not mine) and this race is one of the more closely-watched ones.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 9:13:47 GMT -5
BIDEN CRIMEFAMILY - no evidence other the a check that was paid back. Clear evidence of fraud eventho we admit we have nothing concrete or a smoking gun.
Trump fraud case - OMG everyone is so biased against Trump incriminating himself on the stand. Did you see the sketch?
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 9:32:27 GMT -5
Tuberville on the Military commander that worked 18 hour days doing 2 jobs at the same time and ended up in the hospital because Tuberville are putting a nay on promotions because of WOKE stuff...
He should be working 18 hours day 'cause I worked 18 hours days for years (which is not true - he is so fucking full of it). That is the sociopath holding up our military.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 9:49:21 GMT -5
It is so dumb. Marrying yourself to the hip of a fascist apartheid regime is dumber then dumb.
There are so many ways you can straddle the borderland between condemning the acts of Hamas and work on ensuring that Israel adhere to international law. You don't have to defend a clear hyper partisan out of step lunatic regime. You can make sure you stand behind Israeli and Palestinian civilians and condemn terrorist and terror state alike.
But, Fetterman in his stupidity picked a side. And he is now losing the very base that helped him to victory.
No one like Bibi and his regime. No one. Including Israelis. But lending it credence by professing unconditional support only strengthen it.
There are two ways Biden and others could have played this perfectly. First, during Bibis war against their own Supreme Court. Biden could've been smart and supported the plurality of Israelis fighting against it, and come out strong against Hamas and then for a reasonable response against Palestinian, by pressuring Israel to limit not only the damage, but by lending a hand in surgically striking against Hamas. Come out in defense of American citizens in Gaza and an unwavering commitment from USA to help free the hostages. Put pressure on the international community to go after Hamas and its infrastructure - both in countries that harbor Hamas, but to reign in and dismantle it. But instead they did the worst part - let Israel go full tilt, wash their hands, bemoan the situation and largely let American hostages AND American Palestinians get massacred. He looks weak and complicit and he's losing young adults and has basically already lost Michigan.
There's no downside among GoP. They're already onboard with the lunacy. Some of them are already talking about throwing out Palestinian Americans out of this country. This won't make me stop voting for Biden. And I will do my best to explain to my kids why they should too. But I don't blame them for feeling enormously disappointed. I am too. Here's one thing I will say Obama stood tall. His relationship with Bibi wasn't monolithic. It was clear that they didn't see eye to eye. You don't have to kiss his fucking ass in order to find a way to support Israel. In fact the best anyone could do is to let Israelis know you have their back, not just Bibis.
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 10:25:58 GMT -5
It is so dumb. Marrying yourself to the hip of a fascist apartheid regime is dumber then dumb. There are so many ways you can straddle the borderland between condemning the acts of Hamas and work on ensuring that Israel adhere to international law. You don't have to defend a clear hyper partisan out of step lunatic regime. You can make sure you stand behind Israeli and Palestinian civilians and condemn terrorist and terror state alike. But, Fetterman in his stupidity picked a side. And he is now losing the very base that helped him to victory. No one like Bibi and his regime. No one. Including Israelis. But lending it credence by professing unconditional support only strengthen it. There are two ways Biden and others could have played this perfectly. First, during Bibis war against their own Supreme Court. Biden could've been smart and supported the plurality of Israelis fighting against it, and come out strong against Hamas and then for a reasonable response against Palestinian, by pressuring Israel to limit not only the damage, but by lending a hand in surgically striking against Hamas. Come out in defense of American citizens in Gaza and an unwavering commitment from USA to help free the hostages. Put pressure on the international community to go after Hamas and its infrastructure - both in countries that harbor Hamas, but to reign in and dismantle it. But instead they did the worst part - let Israel go full tilt, wash their hands, bemoan the situation and largely let American hostages AND American Palestinians get massacred. He looks weak and complicit and he's losing young adults and has basically already lost Michigan. There's no downside among GoP. They're already onboard with the lunacy. Some of them are already talking about throwing out Palestinian Americans out of this country. This won't make me stop voting for Biden. And I will do my best to explain to my kids why they should too. But I don't blame them for feeling enormously disappointed. I am too. Here's one thing I will say Obama stood tall. His relationship with Bibi wasn't monolithic. It was clear that they didn't see eye to eye. You don't have to kiss his fucking ass in order to find a way to support Israel. In fact the best anyone could do is to let Israelis know you have their back, not just Bibis. Israelis realize that - that's why they respect Joe more than Nahoohoo.
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Post by LA_Randy on Nov 7, 2023 10:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Nov 7, 2023 10:59:10 GMT -5
As Republicans embrace theocratic authoritarianism, the political media is tongue-tied Corporate media seems to lack the vocabulary to accurately describe the modern Republican Party. The latest example, of course, is the election of a new Speaker of the House: Mike Johnson, an insurrectionist anti-gay right-wing extremist Trump proxy. Those words accurately describe the little-known congressman from Louisiana. In fact, they’re quite restrained. It would be even more accurate to call him a bigoted Christofascist member of the Trump cult willing to end democracy as we know it. Any of those descriptions, of course, are way too blunt for the dignified editors of our top newsrooms — all of whom believe in balance more than accuracy. But consider how poorly the words they choose describe the reality of the Republican Party and its current leadership... presswatchers.org/2023/10/as-republicans-embrace-theocratic-authoritarianism-the-political-media-is-tongue-tied/
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 11:08:14 GMT -5
It is so dumb. Marrying yourself to the hip of a fascist apartheid regime is dumber then dumb. There are so many ways you can straddle the borderland between condemning the acts of Hamas and work on ensuring that Israel adhere to international law. You don't have to defend a clear hyper partisan out of step lunatic regime. You can make sure you stand behind Israeli and Palestinian civilians and condemn terrorist and terror state alike. But, Fetterman in his stupidity picked a side. And he is now losing the very base that helped him to victory. No one like Bibi and his regime. No one. Including Israelis. But lending it credence by professing unconditional support only strengthen it. There are two ways Biden and others could have played this perfectly. First, during Bibis war against their own Supreme Court. Biden could've been smart and supported the plurality of Israelis fighting against it, and come out strong against Hamas and then for a reasonable response against Palestinian, by pressuring Israel to limit not only the damage, but by lending a hand in surgically striking against Hamas. Come out in defense of American citizens in Gaza and an unwavering commitment from USA to help free the hostages. Put pressure on the international community to go after Hamas and its infrastructure - both in countries that harbor Hamas, but to reign in and dismantle it. But instead they did the worst part - let Israel go full tilt, wash their hands, bemoan the situation and largely let American hostages AND American Palestinians get massacred. He looks weak and complicit and he's losing young adults and has basically already lost Michigan. There's no downside among GoP. They're already onboard with the lunacy. Some of them are already talking about throwing out Palestinian Americans out of this country. This won't make me stop voting for Biden. And I will do my best to explain to my kids why they should too. But I don't blame them for feeling enormously disappointed. I am too. Here's one thing I will say Obama stood tall. His relationship with Bibi wasn't monolithic. It was clear that they didn't see eye to eye. You don't have to kiss his fucking ass in order to find a way to support Israel. In fact the best anyone could do is to let Israelis know you have their back, not just Bibis. Israelis realize that - that's why they respect Joe more than Nahoohoo. Maybe, but 'Israel''s government is in charge. And our response to it, on an official level, has been utterly weak and timid.
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Post by forgottenlord on Nov 7, 2023 11:09:18 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that ensures I will never, ever, move to America... (the second video)
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 11:24:40 GMT -5
As Republicans embrace theocratic authoritarianism, the political media is tongue-tied Corporate media seems to lack the vocabulary to accurately describe the modern Republican Party. The latest example, of course, is the election of a new Speaker of the House: Mike Johnson, an insurrectionist anti-gay right-wing extremist Trump proxy. Those words accurately describe the little-known congressman from Louisiana. In fact, they’re quite restrained. It would be even more accurate to call him a bigoted Christofascist member of the Trump cult willing to end democracy as we know it. Any of those descriptions, of course, are way too blunt for the dignified editors of our top newsrooms — all of whom believe in balance more than accuracy. But consider how poorly the words they choose describe the reality of the Republican Party and its current leadership... presswatchers.org/2023/10/as-republicans-embrace-theocratic-authoritarianism-the-political-media-is-tongue-tied/The problem with Media in a binary political system is that we see everything as a scale of left to right with a moderate middle. It hasn't been like that in ages. The moderate has swung over to traditional right, the right is hanging by a fingernail over the abyss and left for most part has moved towards what was moderately middle with a part of the caucus that is in FDR territory if you look at policies. However media keep trying to cornhole everything into the traditional scale no matter how far right the right flops, flips and trip. That is why nutbags are called 'moderates' (see Sinema and Manchin) and all manners of pee drinking window lickers on the right falls into a neat scale of moderates to hardliners (which is meaningless since almost all 'moderates' vote with the zombie callers). This propensity to continuously new normal GOP as it slides into pure fascism while calling for the imprisonment of Media, is fascinating and atypical of corporate media that think in terms of continued tax cuts for rich and minimizing real Americans concern, and surmise the real issue of grievance politics as 'some say this and that', When in reality the movement towards the right as an expression of how tilted this nation has become towards the ultra rich, but confused with socio-cultural expressions against trans and whatever, largely boosted by Media itself as they downplay the dangerous and cult like expression this is taking. Media has barely lost its breath in normalizing the idea behind book banning in context of 'getting rid of pornography', just as breathlessly as they simultaneously entertained the BS around massive voter fraud and said little about the excuse used by red states to utterly gerrymander permanent political power. Even Media was onboard with the idea that last midterm and this midterm, Dems wouldn't win seats and GOP would win all of them. Because traditionally that could happen (if these were normal times). But seemed entirely shocked that discontent with where we're going would large propel the nation into a blue wave against Trumpism in 2018 and make a fart sound as to GOPs red wave in 2022. Yet the arguments are essentially the same. Media entertain the idea that Biden is old and in cognitive decline, while gloss over the spittle bus that is Trump. Trump is never saddled with either age, nor brain problems, eventho his rants have the smell of decay and he frequently says the wrong place or slurs words so bad you can only guess what the fuck he was saying. And we have this, because it is a binary system, with an artificial scale, where a Christo fascist like Mike Johnson can become a speaker and it is just new normal all over again. He can scrub his social media and our Media shows such deference to his past that you'd think he came sliding out of Baby Jesus Vagina, delivered with the 10 commandants to the doorsteps of the Capital, to the tune of an all white choir of angels.
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 11:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 11:55:38 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that ensures I will never, ever, move to America... (the second video) It was his fat wallet! And who down here has gas attendants still??
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Post by foggyisback on Nov 7, 2023 11:57:50 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 12:14:37 GMT -5
That is simply not true. Lets dispel one exceedingly dumb myth here And within the first few days the GLOBAL community responded with fleckless surrender and unconditional support of an Israeli response. There was almost a universal condemnation and shock over what Hamas had done. Governments AND Media responded with almost unconditional support and for a few minutes the weakest and perhaps the most sidelined voices were those that cautioned an Israeli overreaction that was surely to come given the actual responses from the Israeli regime. In fact pro Palestinian marches was within the first few weeks of the actual conflict banned across Europe where as the PRO ISRAEL reaction was almost imminent, with pro Israeli marches AND things like the Eifel tower lit up in the colors of the Israeli flag. What changed was the feckless response by governments across the globe to what was presenting itself as a genocide scenario with more bombs dropped in little over a week, indiscriminately against mostly residential areas, than USA had dropped in one year in Afghanistan. it was clear to most people in the world that what was happen wasn't a proportional response. Worse, Israel's government didn't limit their bloodthirst and opportunistic violence against Gaza - they're doing the same on a different scale in the West Bank. THAT is what REGULAR folks noticed. Not governments and not Media. In contrast to that, anyone opposing this immediate and unconditional support of Israel, both on a government level, Academic level AND Media, has been sidelined and many times fired. So it is absolutely false that the GLOBAL community came out against Israel. What has shifted is regular folks opinion. Polling indicates that while there's about a 50 50 split in USA about giving Israel more money for guns, there is overwhelming support for giving AID to both Palestinians and Israel. Aid, not more bombs. That illustrates the problem in supporting Israel. Israel's government has been outspoken in their desire to collectively punish Palestinians for Hamas and to pretty much level the entire area and force Palestinians into exile. They are not making a secret out of it. People hear that, and are not revolted by the carnage and the clear genocidal impulse against Palestinians. And people are also pissed at how Israel's Government and their sycophantic assholes around the world keep claiming that any resistance against Israeli government actions are somehow the same as being anti semitic. And argument that many Media companies are also making. What has happened through Israelis bloodthirst for more then just revenge, but an apocalyptic eradication of Gaza, is that the support for their actions has clearly lost ground and quickly. And so many politicians have been caught making traiditional support for Israelis action without realizing how quickly Israel's government turned this into shit. And mind you, as anti semitism is on the rise, so is Islamaphobia, and generally from the usual suspects. Either ultra partisan Islamists but mostly from White Supremacists. And Media all over the world - particularly in UK are trying to demonize protests on behalf of Palestinians or an end to the conflict - as anti semitic and hateful. So no, there's no GLOBAL community against Israel. It is a flatfooted response by governments across the western world and a population that is largely disgusted by the overreaction. And mind you, not against Israelis or Jews by large, but the apartheid regime orchestrating it. Meanwhile Israel plus Media and some governments are going after Jews that are against continued bloodshed as if they are self hating jews. This is also not true. Media, from left center and right has promoted from day one Israel's right to 'defend themselves' and there was no person in power that defended Hamas in any way. No one. Maybe on rando level of young adults and the usual 'Iran' level guys, but certainly not in Western governments and Media. You cannot even find a Democrat defending Hamas. At worst you have Rashida defending Palestinian civilian against Israel apartheid regime, but no one has defended Hamas. Certainly not on a official level. And comparing governments and Media with some fucking randos online is certainly not the same. This started changing however when the most centrist of Media outlets, like Wolf Blitzer confronted Israeli officials with the ugly attack on refugee camps and ambulance convoys and the answer was the usual unapologetic nonsense about how killing 50 Palestinian Civilians to MAYBE get some unknown 'HAMAS' commander was okay. That is when Media even started changing their tune, even if it was just in the most timid ways. Because the reality divide between what Israel said, and what our eyes saw, was just to great. And this again, is complete BS. No one has ever defended any local terrorist group. At all. In fact there has been a complete circling of Wagons around Israeli claims partly due to the few terrorist acts we've seen in the past 10 years. From the bottle rockets they fire that always lead to USA supplying them with more stuff, to the shock when some terrorist goes stabby against regular civilians. Meanwhile it has been a complete radio silence about the continued atrocities by hardline settlers and IDF and the incarcerations of mostly young adults where there are thousands of kids currently in Israeli jails. All deemed terrorists. With reliable stories about torture. The only reason why we hear them now, is because we were so utterly shocked by what Hamas did, that some of the REASONS escaped. With 75 years of apartheid starting with the Nakba, a term most people didn't even know about and the continued worsening of the occupied territories where 90 percent of deaths comes from toxic water since Israel has destroyed their water purification plants and refuse for Palestinians to import what is needed to repair them. That half of Gazas population is under 18 years old and in the West Bank it is a paltry 21.5 years. That shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. Again, what Hamas did is awful and reprehensible, but no one lost their scales over their eyes when they finally saw what Israel have been systematically doing for decades. Humanism isn't about the side that is better or worse, it is the question about what can we do to preserve it? There will always be those that misplace their anger against what a regime does with a general anger against 'Jews'. Pro Israeli Jews are doing just that against Jews that are against continued conflict. And being against the mass slaughter of Palestinians isn't to be anti semitic or Pro Hamas. Hamas can go fuck themselves until they can't possible fuck themselves further. In fact all of the terrorist organizations and Iran's regime can do the same. So can the Saudis, Syrian regime, Egypt etc do as well. None of them gives one single shit about Palestinians. Or Israeli civilians. Fuck, Israels government doesn't even give a shit about the Israeli civilians. And what does the GLOBAL community think? Well that is the conundrum. By large there's a great divide between Media and governments on one hand and regular folks on the other. That's not the first time, but that is why you can't point to some kind of global phenomena against Israel. Because by large governments and Media are on their side and even trying to suppress regular folks from protesting on behalf of Palestinians. But Israel's actions themselves have more or less forced some Media and some government officials, such as Dick Durbin to come out against continued conflict. And that is the crux here. Can the western world forge a response against Bibi and his fanatics that a the same time give unconditional support to Israeli civilians AND aid to Palestinians. Whomever cracks that code will be chicken dinner winner.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 12:15:52 GMT -5
Shitty law enforcement work. Time and time again.
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Post by forgottenlord on Nov 7, 2023 12:23:36 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that ensures I will never, ever, move to America... (the second video) It was his fat wallet! And who down here has gas attendants still?? I believe New Jersey outlawed self-serve
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 12:58:10 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Nov 7, 2023 13:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 14:04:18 GMT -5
We are ill served by our Media.
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Post by mrobvious on Nov 7, 2023 14:29:59 GMT -5
As a bonus, he paid thousands of dollars for the incompetence.
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