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Post by foggyisback on Dec 4, 2023 4:04:54 GMT -5
Evolution, explained.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 8:27:28 GMT -5
Never mind the commentary
Mike Johnson is as deeply ignorant as most of the idiots in safe seats. They have no fucking idea about the 'Murrikan peeple
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 8:36:04 GMT -5
Healthcare used to work just fine back in the day when there were fewer people in the country and people died in their 50's. So we no need no stinking healthcare with 300 million people, many older.
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Post by foggyisback on Dec 4, 2023 8:51:06 GMT -5
...and in hell lifted his eyes, being in torment....
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 9:51:39 GMT -5
Never mind the commentary - but of course Fox you to not know what is going on in a hearing. See they want full transparency, but at the same time it is better not to be transparent. See what I mean? Make sense right?
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Post by phillippatUK on Dec 4, 2023 10:53:42 GMT -5
Never mind the commentary - but of course Fox you to not know what is going on in a hearing. See they want full transparency, but at the same time it is better not to be transparent. See what I mean? Make sense right? Of course they don't like to be trans-parent
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Post by forgottenlord on Dec 4, 2023 11:58:30 GMT -5
Hey Ob, completely missed your Star Wars reply on Friday and I fully agree on the stupidity of Chariot style lightsabers. Even in the 19th century, the brief revival of ramming was, in hindsight, seen as stupid. It's even worse when you consider how fast space ships should be moving. They don't move that fast because it would be less exciting to not see each other which allows immersion. Don't draw attention to that problem by doing something that only works at slow speeds. At the real speeds in space, you cannot intentionally get within a few feet without risking a straight up crash - as a Russian pilot demonstrated earlier this year.
Also, a few weeks ago I was talking with someone about how planes could possibly crash while taxiing and I used this analogy: stand in the endzone and have your buddy run across either the opposing 10 yard line or the goal line (make sure his feet are hidden so you can't use that) and try to guess which one he ran across.
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Post by forgottenlord on Dec 4, 2023 12:43:32 GMT -5
BC Doctor loses appeal of her dismissal from a hospital for refusing to get vaccinated www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/theresa-szezepaniak-bc-hospital-appeal-board-covid-vaccine-1.7046988This was a non-judicial review board so she can still appeal for a judicial review but I think it unlikely that they'll reverse the decision (I can think of only one case where that happened - and that was because the TelCom regulator was not respecting verbal agreements where evidence of the agreement was fully available). The review board did have one minor criticism that she should have been suspended rather than dismissed and given the opportunity to change her vaccine status. If she had failed to change it by the time of her annual review, the review board concluded that would be the point for the suspension to become permanent.
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Post by LA_Randy on Dec 4, 2023 13:19:06 GMT -5
For forgottenlord’s question this weekend. Kissinger …I find Kissinger a fascinating figure because he’s more interesting in a totemic sense than as a policymaker or an academic. That totemic nature applies to both his friends and his critics; his actual performance as both statesman and war criminal was not nearly as far outside the norms of post-war American foreign policy as either group would like. What made him unique is the absolute refusal to play the apology and absolution game, a move that enabled the strange combination of fierce hatred and elite esteem that characterized his post-government career. www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/12/kissinger
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 13:21:02 GMT -5
Hey Ob, completely missed your Star Wars reply on Friday and I fully agree on the stupidity of Chariot style lightsabers. Even in the 19th century, the brief revival of ramming was, in hindsight, seen as stupid. It's even worse when you consider how fast space ships should be moving. They don't move that fast because it would be less exciting to not see each other which allows immersion. Don't draw attention to that problem by doing something that only works at slow speeds. At the real speeds in space, you cannot intentionally get within a few feet without risking a straight up crash - as a Russian pilot demonstrated earlier this year. Also, a few weeks ago I was talking with someone about how planes could possibly crash while taxiing and I used this analogy: stand in the endzone and have your buddy run across either the opposing 10 yard line or the goal line (make sure his feet are hidden so you can't use that) and try to guess which one he ran across. Yeah it was corny just to make a cool scene. But imagine the actual practical use of adding it. The infinitesimal chance that you'll ever be able to pass in between two smaller ships and use it isn't worth the waste of resources. As for chariots, I'm not sure there has been that many examples of it in real life. It is a cool movie trope. Maybe there was some kind of scythe like adaption on faster chariots so that it would persuade troops flanking a chariot not to board it. Most chariots at least before breeding faster cavalry type horses, were slow and more used for farming then anything else. Chariots were therefor less nimble and more mobile artillery platforms. Chariots weren't meant to really blow through formations, altho it is possible that some could be potentially used to do so. THAT would make scythes on each side 'useful' until you get stuck in densely packed formations and destroyed. That was in large what happened to Hannibal's Elephants and why Roman formations were divided into square cohorts for mobility (and to move apart to avoid weapons like that). Once Romans got over the shock and awe of Elephants in warfare, they figured out strategies to mitigate it. There's also the difficulty in training animals to charge through something. All animals have some self preservation mechanism which lead to the invention of blinkers/blinders on horses/animals to limit back and side visibility. But again - it is a show and someone thought 'that would look cool'. Which it didn't. The practicality of the scrap launchers tho were far smarter, given that the pilot probably knew they were operating ships that could lock other ships in place. We see that today with chaff launchers on ships (older technology) and flare launchers on airplanes. Even noise makers on Submarines or the anti RPG or missile system on modern tanks. Other then that I think the show has the grit and the atmosphere of being more Star Wars then the other dumber ones. Mandalorian is okay, but I so question WHY there are the others. What lore are they building too. Disney has already done the mistake of tying some shows to the larger universe for their second phase MSU movies. That is just too obscure. Not everyone has a streaming subscription, so then being thrown into a movie that borrows from the lore building in shows, dramatically lowers the interest from the audience. But now I'm ranting again, sorry.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 13:42:23 GMT -5
To note, what Trump is asking for is the continued ability to harass and attack Employees, including all of Engorons family. None of which has ANY bearing on the Fraud trial. Not one single ounce of the shit he has said, that is leading to racist commentary and death threats, has something to do with the over valuation of properties.
It doesn't serve anything but a way for a fascist psychopath like Trump to ensure that some dumbass tries to kill the Judge or someone of his employment or family.
Without expedited review, [the defendants] will continue to suffer irreparable injury daily, as they are silenced on matters implicating the appearance of bias and impropriety
That's simply BS. The only people that are suffering at the moment are family and employees. Trump is the one who choose making it an imaginary injury to something he can't articulate. And how fucking Beta do you have to be, to go after people like that.
For me personally, time to start throwing the guy in jail for endangering people.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 13:44:32 GMT -5
A famous Israeli newspaper looked into the bS story from day one of the conflict where 40 babies were beheaded and a baby cut out of its mother.
All false.
We know that of course; but that is how they are. And now it has taken root among the idiot right as perhaps the only shit they repeater over and over so they can be morally indignant. But blowing up 5000 children in Gaza...totally cool. I mean what can you do? You must right?
BTW, a day after the temporary ceasefire ended, some 700 Palestinian died. Since the 'ceasefire' ended some 1600 has died.
Such is life.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 13:49:07 GMT -5
I found this hilarious. They so want to ban books, but want to be anonymous since it looks so petty and stupid to ban books. They so want to do the fascist light in obscurity.
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Post by phillippatUK on Dec 4, 2023 14:40:29 GMT -5
I found this hilarious. They so want to ban books, but want to be anonymous since it looks so petty and stupid to ban books. They so want to do the fascist light in obscurity. No conviction - Hitler would be so disappointed in them
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Post by forgottenlord on Dec 4, 2023 14:40:35 GMT -5
Hey Ob, completely missed your Star Wars reply on Friday and I fully agree on the stupidity of Chariot style lightsabers. Even in the 19th century, the brief revival of ramming was, in hindsight, seen as stupid. It's even worse when you consider how fast space ships should be moving. They don't move that fast because it would be less exciting to not see each other which allows immersion. Don't draw attention to that problem by doing something that only works at slow speeds. At the real speeds in space, you cannot intentionally get within a few feet without risking a straight up crash - as a Russian pilot demonstrated earlier this year. Also, a few weeks ago I was talking with someone about how planes could possibly crash while taxiing and I used this analogy: stand in the endzone and have your buddy run across either the opposing 10 yard line or the goal line (make sure his feet are hidden so you can't use that) and try to guess which one he ran across. Yeah it was corny just to make a cool scene. But imagine the actual practical use of adding it. The infinitesimal chance that you'll ever be able to pass in between two smaller ships and use it isn't worth the waste of resources. As for chariots, I'm not sure there has been that many examples of it in real life. It is a cool movie trope. Maybe there was some kind of scythe like adaption on faster chariots so that it would persuade troops flanking a chariot not to board it. Most chariots at least before breeding faster cavalry type horses, were slow and more used for farming then anything else. Chariots were therefor less nimble and more mobile artillery platforms. Chariots weren't meant to really blow through formations, altho it is possible that some could be potentially used to do so. THAT would make scythes on each side 'useful' until you get stuck in densely packed formations and destroyed. That was in large what happened to Hannibal's Elephants and why Roman formations were divided into square cohorts for mobility (and to move apart to avoid weapons like that). Once Romans got over the shock and awe of Elephants in warfare, they figured out strategies to mitigate it. There's also the difficulty in training animals to charge through something. All animals have some self preservation mechanism which lead to the invention of blinkers/blinders on horses/animals to limit back and side visibility. But again - it is a show and someone thought 'that would look cool'. Which it didn't. The practicality of the scrap launchers tho were far smarter, given that the pilot probably knew they were operating ships that could lock other ships in place. We see that today with chaff launchers on ships (older technology) and flare launchers on airplanes. Even noise makers on Submarines or the anti RPG or missile system on modern tanks. Other then that I think the show has the grit and the atmosphere of being more Star Wars then the other dumber ones. Mandalorian is okay, but I so question WHY there are the others. What lore are they building too. Disney has already done the mistake of tying some shows to the larger universe for their second phase MSU movies. That is just too obscure. Not everyone has a streaming subscription, so then being thrown into a movie that borrows from the lore building in shows, dramatically lowers the interest from the audience. But now I'm ranting again, sorry. The most telling thing about chariots is that they more or less disappeared as soon as horseback became viable. Same with ramming. One historian made the point that weapons exist in all sorts of neat shapes and uses but the useful ones are the ones that survive more than one regime. And I've yet to own Disney+ so haven't watched anything but I do perceive that there's an anti-correlation between "shows about things we wanted to know more about" and "shows people like". A random Mandalorian? Well received. Ahsoka and Sabine finding Ezra? Meh. The other thing is: I find the Disney Universe just so small. My favorite way of explaining it: do you remember Revenge of the Sith, when Anakin is going to meet with Palpatine there's a quick shot of him climbing the steps? It's a nothing scene. There's 5 named characters in that scene (including Anakin) and they all have biographies. BTW: do you know which scene pisses me off the most from Ep 9? The lightspeed skipping scene. The concept of Lightspeed Skipping makes a lot of interesting sense and using it as a tool to evade pursuers makes a hell of a lot of sense and putting wear and tear on the engines makes a lot of sense. I mean, we'll ignore for a minute how you could never track ships into Hyperspace because while you could figure out the direction they were headed, you couldn't necessarily figure out the distance (and Ep VIII having a device that allowed the tracking made reasonable sense) so how the fuck did they get chased by the TIEs through 3 different destinations but I digress. Instead, they ruin it by the fact that he jumps to light speed and manually is able to drop the ship in the middle of a crowded scenic location where he reasonably should've been destroyed coming out of hyperspace. And then, without changing course or entering anything else into the navicomputer, he jumps again and ends up in the middle of a CITY ON A PLANET. And then he jumps and somehow JJ makes it even worse than a city because suddenly a massive hand is already reaching for them. JJ literally took a really interesting and viable concept, something that actually had legitimate merit, and he made it fucking stupid. Just have them change course after each jump to different points in space and go "I think we broke the lock on the tracker". But no, JJ needed to add pretty locations that make no fucking sense. (Also, was his plan to have the TIEs crash into the skyscrapers? Do these morons not understand that this means Poe was perfectly willing to get civilians killed?) GAH
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Post by LA_Randy on Dec 4, 2023 14:42:32 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 15:01:51 GMT -5
Yeah it was corny just to make a cool scene. But imagine the actual practical use of adding it. The infinitesimal chance that you'll ever be able to pass in between two smaller ships and use it isn't worth the waste of resources. As for chariots, I'm not sure there has been that many examples of it in real life. It is a cool movie trope. Maybe there was some kind of scythe like adaption on faster chariots so that it would persuade troops flanking a chariot not to board it. Most chariots at least before breeding faster cavalry type horses, were slow and more used for farming then anything else. Chariots were therefor less nimble and more mobile artillery platforms. Chariots weren't meant to really blow through formations, altho it is possible that some could be potentially used to do so. THAT would make scythes on each side 'useful' until you get stuck in densely packed formations and destroyed. That was in large what happened to Hannibal's Elephants and why Roman formations were divided into square cohorts for mobility (and to move apart to avoid weapons like that). Once Romans got over the shock and awe of Elephants in warfare, they figured out strategies to mitigate it. There's also the difficulty in training animals to charge through something. All animals have some self preservation mechanism which lead to the invention of blinkers/blinders on horses/animals to limit back and side visibility. But again - it is a show and someone thought 'that would look cool'. Which it didn't. The practicality of the scrap launchers tho were far smarter, given that the pilot probably knew they were operating ships that could lock other ships in place. We see that today with chaff launchers on ships (older technology) and flare launchers on airplanes. Even noise makers on Submarines or the anti RPG or missile system on modern tanks. Other then that I think the show has the grit and the atmosphere of being more Star Wars then the other dumber ones. Mandalorian is okay, but I so question WHY there are the others. What lore are they building too. Disney has already done the mistake of tying some shows to the larger universe for their second phase MSU movies. That is just too obscure. Not everyone has a streaming subscription, so then being thrown into a movie that borrows from the lore building in shows, dramatically lowers the interest from the audience. But now I'm ranting again, sorry. The most telling thing about chariots is that they more or less disappeared as soon as horseback became viable. Same with ramming. One historian made the point that weapons exist in all sorts of neat shapes and uses but the useful ones are the ones that survive more than one regime. And I've yet to own Disney+ so haven't watched anything but I do perceive that there's an anti-correlation between "shows about things we wanted to know more about" and "shows people like". A random Mandalorian? Well received. Ahsoka and Sabine finding Ezra? Meh. The other thing is: I find the Disney Universe just so small. My favorite way of explaining it: do you remember Revenge of the Sith, when Anakin is going to meet with Palpatine there's a quick shot of him climbing the steps? It's a nothing scene. There's 5 named characters in that scene (including Anakin) and they all have biographies. BTW: do you know which scene pisses me off the most from Ep 9? The lightspeed skipping scene. The concept of Lightspeed Skipping makes a lot of interesting sense and using it as a tool to evade pursuers makes a hell of a lot of sense and putting wear and tear on the engines makes a lot of sense. I mean, we'll ignore for a minute how you could never track ships into Hyperspace because while you could figure out the direction they were headed, you couldn't necessarily figure out the distance (and Ep VIII having a device that allowed the tracking made reasonable sense) so how the fuck did they get chased by the TIEs through 3 different destinations but I digress. Instead, they ruin it by the fact that he jumps to light speed and manually is able to drop the ship in the middle of a crowded scenic location where he reasonably should've been destroyed coming out of hyperspace. And then, without changing course or entering anything else into the navicomputer, he jumps again and ends up in the middle of a CITY ON A PLANET. And then he jumps and somehow JJ makes it even worse than a city because suddenly a massive hand is already reaching for them. JJ literally took a really interesting and viable concept, something that actually had legitimate merit, and he made it fucking stupid. Just have them change course after each jump to different points in space and go "I think we broke the lock on the tracker". But no, JJ needed to add pretty locations that make no fucking sense. (Also, was his plan to have the TIEs crash into the skyscrapers? Do these morons not understand that this means Poe was perfectly willing to get civilians killed?) GAH You're right about chariots for sure; It was always better to armor individual cavalry once you had the right breed of horse, then to do the same with chariots. Plus horse archery was more flexible and plentiful rather then the same in chariots. As for JJ. I have never been impressed by him. He's not doing bad movies per say, but he doesn't have the creativity to come up with 'new' things. So much is re-hashed and 're-sized'. I mention previously that I liked the new Star Trek, mostly because of the personalities. Not because it was new people, but rather younger version of existing and done fairly well. But it doesn't feel like Captain Kirk and Spock per say. However it is always rehashed shit. But - wait a minute - subverting expectation - this time it wasn't Spock who got radiated and died, it was Captain Kirk and he survived so there was no additional 2 movies about it. In that way it is worse. I've always been against changing existing lore just to reboot. And usually rebooted with corny time travelling tropes. I prefer that you create original stories and work on unique ways of beating an enemy. Like with Guardians of the Galaxy. It is a fucking DANCE off against a guy holding one of the infinity stones. Brilliant. Instead of a time travel trop. In that way JJ Abrams have always rebooted the same shit, added the 'subvert expectations' twist and slathered it with CGI. To me some of the most brilliant movies are those with minimal CGI and maximum character and practical effects. CGI have sorta become the main character and actors and actresses have become the delivery vehicle to the moments of CGI. And sure, the idea of some of these effects, such as 'skipping' sounds cool (or lightsabers on a ship), but it breaks immersion more than anything. I remember the second sequel with those gorilla looking ATAT and those gliders with 1 leg. Why? Why is there ever a use of an ATAT that looks like an gorilla. Or a glider with one leg. When I remember the Empire strikes back, having large walking vehicles make sense in the future. Massive main weapon, excellent armor and a way to transport troops. Could it be done smaller? Sure, but other then the cool factor it makes 'more sense' then gorilla armed atat. And knowing that there is war machines like that, the flyer with harpoons 'make sense' as a simple weapon against a beast like that. That was of course not JJ Abrams fault, but the end battle in the third sequel with THOUSANDS of ships jumping in is the idea of shock and awe by multitude, as suppose to practicality. And wait, no one realized then just how superior the Emperor is that can attack all those ships with force lightning. Not just one person, but all those ships. Anyways. I am looking forward to Rebel Moon, but from the trailers they look messy with slow motion jump combat in a scifi setting. I have a feeling it too will be a perfectly bland but barely memorable addition because everyone seems so super fighter like. It will most like just be a CGI overload with 'badass' characters.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 15:02:21 GMT -5
How Fascist or Socialist.
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Post by forgottenlord on Dec 4, 2023 15:07:47 GMT -5
The Arizona Coyotes are the first team in NHL history to have a 4 game win streak by defeating each of the 4 most recent Stanley Cup winners*. Their next game is against the Washington Capitals, the 5th most recent Stanley Cup winner
*Note: over 5 seasons due to Tampa Bay repeating
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 15:50:51 GMT -5
Ah, margie the mensch. Unemployed are people who lost jobs for reasons that it is their responsibility alone. And it is not racist, she knows some white folks that are really lazy too.
So close...
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 16:08:33 GMT -5
Our Media at their best. They can neutrally cover for a few minutes a guy running for president promising retribution against his perceived political opponents and the eradication of the imaginary left as vermin.
But if you address the truth behind the conflict, they will immediately close ranks and pressure a politicians.
Like when Ron is bleeding in the water, you finally get some critical questions with decent pushback for obfuscation and dancing around the subject. It is that shark when there's blood in the water effect.
I'm okay with Media asking tough question or holding politicians responsible, or bringing them back to unanswered questions, but this ain't it. It is the narrative creation and fundamental cowardice in our corporate Media.
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Post by foggyisback on Dec 4, 2023 16:59:32 GMT -5
For forgottenlord’s question this weekend. Kissinger …I find Kissinger a fascinating figure because he’s more interesting in a totemic sense than as a policymaker or an academic. That totemic nature applies to both his friends and his critics; his actual performance as both statesman and war criminal was not nearly as far outside the norms of post-war American foreign policy as either group would like. What made him unique is the absolute refusal to play the apology and absolution game, a move that enabled the strange combination of fierce hatred and elite esteem that characterized his post-government career. www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/12/kissingerSo he was the first "never apologize" person 😒
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 20:18:47 GMT -5
The appeals court slapped down Trumps appeal to be able to continue harassing family and employees in the NY fraud cause.
He's going to have to go through the proper channels. He now have to convince the full merits panel to see if he can even appeal it. And given that the trial is almost over, it appears this will die before he has the chance too be sociopathic.
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Post by mrobvious on Dec 4, 2023 21:29:30 GMT -5
One good response in the Veep speech, and I hope it is a hard red line, is that USA will not allow or agree in displacement of Palestinians in Gaza (iterated in Egypt, for that audience), reduction of living space in Gaza or redrawing borders. Do note that many prominent Israeli government officials have continued to state that either all Palestinians in Gaza will be driven into Sinai, or that they will reduce Gaza in order to create safe zones. If this admin is ready to make that a hard nono, I hope Israel understand that this is done. And it is a pity really because well all have to pay for what Israel did to Gaza. As terrible as the Hamas attack was, it pales to the destruction of infrastructure in Gaza. Israel has basically made northern Gaza unlivable right now.
This was a big fucking mistake from day one. Our government and that of so many western nations should have never given Israel that kind of verbal support. Because there is no way Biden can repair this shit with minorities living in important states like Michigan. They will not forget what happened in Gaza and who let it happened. And it feels just a little late to the party here because while they tell Israel to stop bombing civilians, they have not stopped and if the idea is to let Israel continue until it is done, and then tell them to stop stealing the land, it really is too late. More will die, from the direct conflict and lack of healthcare, food and water and it is not like Israel is not taking the opportunity to pressure the West Bank as this is going on.
What a fucking blunder this shit has been. And for what? If we force Israel to back off once this is done, it'll be dooming Palestinians to rebuild with little to no assistance, the area. Out of this misery and ashes there will be a much worse terrorist group. There is no wisdom of the elders there. Only the young and suffering. You cannot expect Palestinians to stop fighting when they have nothing BUT the fight going for them.
Perhaps the best thing in the end is that Israel has shown itself to be nothing more then 2 bit state terrorists as a majority of people around the world, for the first time see what they are willing to do. And that'll shape politics in Europe and the American continent. Just as it finally did in South Africa. A South Africa that enjoyed the support of Israel and the rest of the world until the scales fell from everyones eyes (except Israel of course). I'm just not sure if so many had to die to perhaps see that ending.
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