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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 3:21:52 GMT -5
The title sums up the Middle East mess, IMO.
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 3:23:22 GMT -5
Go Raiders - er, Gators.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 6:05:34 GMT -5
What is the exchange rate this time.
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 7:19:54 GMT -5
Gym Jordan will try again in three hours to become SOTH. Will withhold potential disaster/hilarity until afterwards.
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 7:43:09 GMT -5
Home boy must be locked up before somebody gets hurt. That said, you can smell the desperation from Alaska.
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 7:57:05 GMT -5
Let's have a party.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 18, 2023 9:09:53 GMT -5
Immediate reaction: How do you lose 90% of your market value in a year? Ah, fraud
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 9:11:47 GMT -5
Dude came all the way from DC to speak in a nation at war. But yeh, eighty-one years old 🤨
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 9:28:18 GMT -5
Big news from his speech: It was an errant militant rocket from Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital.
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 18, 2023 9:41:53 GMT -5
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Post by foggyisback on Oct 18, 2023 9:44:18 GMT -5
The fudge. Unadulterated mob rule.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 18, 2023 9:46:08 GMT -5
Big news from his speech: It was an errant militant rocket from Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital. Israel is claiming they intercepted a phone conversation from Hamas of basically someone reporting up that they'd fucked up. According to this report, the rocket was being fired from a cemetery behind the hospital and went wildly off course. Grains of salt but the launch approach makes sense, the quality of bombs Hamas owns has always been suspect, and there's a rather famous video within the last year of a different nation launching a missile and it coming straight back at the launcher - something that experts note was a consequence of how it was storing its rockets. If Hamas wanted to convince me that this argument was false, I think their strongest argument is probably the strength of the explosive. I was watching an unrelated video yesterday showing one of the rockets from the mass attack landing and its explosive power was comparable to a grenade - maybe a little more powerful, but not a hell of a lot. It wasn't strong enough to more than scorch the street. That's not big enough to kill 500 - at least not without some completely random secondary explosion on the ground. Now, does that mean all Hamas rockets are only that strong? No. But if there was a thread to poke at here, that's the thread.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 18, 2023 9:48:48 GMT -5
So here's a thought:
What if moderates worked with Dems to get the McCarthy-Biden agreed-to budget passed and then just let the House rot for a while? What actually breaks? It's worth noting that both Israel and Belgium within the last 15 years went through an extended period where the legislature was not able to operate so.... just do what you need to to not have America fall down and then let it play out....
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 9:58:19 GMT -5
Big news from his speech: It was an errant militant rocket from Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital. What a foolish thing to do. When it is proven that it was an Israeli JDAM he's only going to look complicit. Why are we so fucking stupid that we get involved in their genocide.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 10:20:32 GMT -5
Big news from his speech: It was an errant militant rocket from Islamic Jihad that hit the hospital. Israel is claiming they intercepted a phone conversation from Hamas of basically someone reporting up that they'd fucked up. According to this report, the rocket was being fired from a cemetery behind the hospital and went wildly off course. Grains of salt but the launch approach makes sense, the quality of bombs Hamas owns has always been suspect, and there's a rather famous video within the last year of a different nation launching a missile and it coming straight back at the launcher - something that experts note was a consequence of how it was storing its rockets. If Hamas wanted to convince me that this argument was false, I think their strongest argument is probably the strength of the explosive. I was watching an unrelated video yesterday showing one of the rockets from the mass attack landing and its explosive power was comparable to a grenade - maybe a little more powerful, but not a hell of a lot. It wasn't strong enough to more than scorch the street. That's not big enough to kill 500 - at least not without some completely random secondary explosion on the ground. Now, does that mean all Hamas rockets are only that strong? No. But if there was a thread to poke at here, that's the thread. There is not one single expert that believe that Hamas did it. Not only because IDF has released several detracted videos, one being a video of several fired off rockets , one interception high above, followed by seconds later a massive explosion in the area of the hospital. That was not fired behind in a cemetery, and the intercepted rocket was pulverized and could not have exploded the way it did. And second, there is a film on the ground of the strike that sounds exactly like the end stage of a JDAM strike, with engine sound and massive explosion similar to an JDAM, and as you pointed out, could not have been a home made rocket since they do not have that explosive mass. Some have therefor claimed that the explosion hit an ammo depot, which incidentally just had to be there in the open, but that would require one initial explosion followed by multiple explosion. What is clearly seen is one massive explosion. Plus IDF had already targeted that hospital Saturday. And plus shortly after the strike and before the strike, IDF claims to have warned residents to leave the hospital because it was going to be targeted and a spokesperson to Bibi tweeted that they had struck a and killed terrorists at the hospital and then quickly removed it when condemnations came in. Sure, Hamas can lie. And they do. I do not for a minute believe that they had told their fighters to spare civilians like Hamas communication guy said. Own your savagery. And IDF is well known for lying about who they target. It is a well known tactic of theirs to blame other Palestinian's for similar shit. Like when they targeted a March for life and killed unarmed people and doctored images. Or when they sniped and murdered a famous journalists and claimed that some Militia was firing indiscriminately nearby (apparently 3KM away from there as they found out) and then later admitted. They kill and murder people in cold blood and then manufacture shit if there's even the slightest pushback from the international community. If no one says something they just continue to murder with the excuse of 'human shields'. Do I believe Hamas? Hell no. But given that IDF targeted the hospital previously, warned them to leave, then shortly after said they struck and killed terrorists there until the word recoiled in disgust, then suddenly the fabricated numerous of videos that they retracted and now finally have this miraculous recording. It is fucking amazing just how quickly they have evidence of stuff. They should own their savagery. Every single official in Israel keep talking about how Palestinians and Hamas are the same and that they are human animals. Don't chicken out now when you manage to outdo Hamas with American purchased technology. I am a genuine believer in first truth. Meaning that if your first instinct is to put out BS and then continuously detract it based on analysis and discovery, you're not honest. The one that strive to put out supporting data, no matter how long it takes to provide is, is generally the person who speaks the truth. That is of course not concrete logic. Again, Hamas might have done it but has no capability like that. But sure, they could have saved that Tzar Bomba for the occasion and fired it off. Israel does. And they are currently indiscriminately leveling entire city blocks. But THIS one they didn't. After they first said they did.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 10:27:11 GMT -5
So here's a thought: What if moderates worked with Dems to get the McCarthy-Biden agreed-to budget passed and then just let the House rot for a while? What actually breaks? It's worth noting that both Israel and Belgium within the last 15 years went through an extended period where the legislature was not able to operate so.... just do what you need to to not have America fall down and then let it play out.... That is true, because all legislative systems are replicated down to the smallest community. Meaning taxes are collected and pay for this on a local, state and federal level. Legislation is already in place to fund various important functions and other then new legislation, much of this is executed on the executive level by President, governors and mayors across the country, Plus wtf has GOP done so far anyways? Held a bunch of cringy hearings that not a single functional adult believe is close to reality. Even Fox is rolling their eyes over how poorly this shit has been handled. It might even be to the benefit of the country that the House remains gridlocked, given just how incompetent GOP is at governing.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 10:40:50 GMT -5
Something that I found interesting when watching a video on Bronze age warfare, is that the first chariots were slow and pulled by mules/donkeys, since the horses that was used much later in antiquity, was not bred and domesticized yet. Normally when we speak about evolution, we generally talk about an enormous span of time. And it is true that the Bronze age, say 3000 - 1200 BC is still far in the future compared to the first paleolithic villages dating back 125000 years ago, when humans first started to domesticize certain animals for food and protection.
And it makes sense that the first carts built for transportation, used slower animals such as Oxen, Mules and Donkeys as suppose to fast horses. Having a fast horse do make sense in regards to warfare, but not for domestic, civilian use. I think I need to dig into this a little further because it does sounds extremely fascinating if true.
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 18, 2023 11:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 18, 2023 11:31:15 GMT -5
Looks like Jordan is going down again having already lost 12 votes.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 11:39:16 GMT -5
This is true of course, but it is not division among partisan lines in the same way. On the Democrats side you have a desire to legislate on behalf (for most part) of people. Be it invest in infrastructure, help people move upwards and allow for people to live freely as whomever they would like to be. On the other side of the artificial dike, you have a group of nihilists that extort to get their way, fabricate crisis for power gain and fight internally on who is the most pure. They have no policy ideas and the purity test is entirely chest puffing and pearl clutching. If we are divided it is because the right choose to be as their idea of unity is to force the rest of us to accept their fungible cultural morality. If there is a primary fight on the D side, it is generally between liberal policy's for communities, or corporate so called moderates. Where as on the right side, it used to be about establishment vs libertarian type culturalists. Now it is generally about the slightly insane vs the completely insane, as GOP continue to try to cement this minority power through gerrymandering, and the fight in their safe district are between barely functional legislators and people like margie that should be committed. This idea of 'divides' have been fostered by our Media in their need to make everything about bothsideism. The division isn't a designed border region between right and left, it is rather a Faultline between wanting to function and legislative anarchy. So why can't 'both sides' cooperate. Because on one side you have the right that want to strip away all ability for the government to functionally aid people and on the left side that is a bridge too far. We're not talking about policy differences here. The current GOP want to strip all spending on regular folks and shove in in the direction of the new robber barons. Their budget propositions are libertarian fantasies concocted by imbeciles and if they don't get their way, they're willing to destroy the confidence in our economy to pursue their lala land nonsense.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 11:40:06 GMT -5
Looks like Jordan is going down again having already lost 12 votes. Will it be 16 times this time - a new record of weakness. Or a few losses and just slight cringe?
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 18, 2023 11:45:45 GMT -5
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 11:51:58 GMT -5
I guess that is why Hannity went from 'he's an old school Democrat' to 'job killing liberal'.
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Post by forgottenlord on Oct 18, 2023 11:55:50 GMT -5
I guess that is why Hannity went from 'he's an old school Democrat' to 'job killing liberal'. I'm amazed he hit 16%, but if he can hold it, fuck it, let's have someone to split the conspiracy theory vote.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 11:56:40 GMT -5
The holy spirit told her to compare pride to swastikas? So which one, the Jewish, Christian or Islamic version? Or how about the Christian version? Very righteous and faithful of her. These fanatics are always willing to throw God under the bus when it suits them. Own your own savagery.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 11:58:51 GMT -5
I guess that is why Hannity went from 'he's an old school Democrat' to 'job killing liberal'. I'm amazed he hit 16%, but if he can hold it, fuck it, let's have someone to split the conspiracy theory vote. Well, RFK gives the idiot locust all the conspiracies without the ugly racist shit and petty insults. He coats in quasi scientific terms and tingles the idiots on the left, right and middle. So it is possible. Some conservatives like that shit, but not Trumps ugly behavior. And some love that about him, but it has always turned off independent lunatics.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 12:03:59 GMT -5
So it appears that Jordan is sliding backwards in vote 2. I mean...
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 18, 2023 12:07:00 GMT -5
Jordan loses 22 votes from gopers this time, going in the wrong direction, lol.
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Post by mrobvious on Oct 18, 2023 12:22:10 GMT -5
Jordan loses 22 votes from gopers this time, going in the wrong direction, lol. Couldn't happen to a worse person.
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Post by LA_Randy on Oct 18, 2023 12:26:41 GMT -5
Old enough to remember the gopers squealing denial at Biden’s sotu speech when he accused them of wanting to cut the programs.
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